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  # 1036032 3-May-2014 16:00
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Anyone concerned about illicit scanning of their card or passport might want to invest in a wallet or passport sleeve that is shielded.

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  # 1036040 3-May-2014 16:32
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mattwnz: I have heard that in the US, people go around with hidden scanners, scanning people handbags, and wallets. Not sure if ther eis security to stop that, but a pretty big flaw if true.


It's pretty easy to simply sum this up by saying it's an urban legend - purely because the number of Paywave/Paypass capable cards in the US so small it wouldn't be worth it.



 
 
 
 


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  # 1036042 3-May-2014 16:40
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mattwnz: I have heard that in the US, people go around with hidden scanners, scanning people handbags, and wallets. Not sure if ther eis security to stop that, but a pretty big flaw if true.


It's pretty easy to simply sum this up by saying it's an urban legend - purely because the number of Paywave/Paypass capable cards in the US so small it wouldn't be worth it.




When I went into Walmart to get the Roku / Chrome cast the staff had never seen a chip card before, They were amazed

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  # 1036044 3-May-2014 16:50
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When I went to Las Vegas at the start of the year ( I presume its the same everywhere in the states) using a pin (or chip) at any store is unheard of . I had to sign and show my ID each time whilst buying things. They are so behind :-)
Aussie seems to be a couple of years ahead using pay wave at a lot more places.





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  # 1036049 3-May-2014 17:00
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johnr:
sbiddle:
mattwnz: I have heard that in the US, people go around with hidden scanners, scanning people handbags, and wallets. Not sure if ther eis security to stop that, but a pretty big flaw if true.


It's pretty easy to simply sum this up by saying it's an urban legend - purely because the number of Paywave/Paypass capable cards in the US so small it wouldn't be worth it.




When I went into Walmart to get the Roku / Chrome cast the staff had never seen a chip card before, They were amazed


I used Paywave when on one of my trips there last year and the staff all looked at me strange as they'd never seen it used before.



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sbiddle:
johnr:
sbiddle:
mattwnz: I have heard that in the US, people go around with hidden scanners, scanning people handbags, and wallets. Not sure if ther eis security to stop that, but a pretty big flaw if true.


It's pretty easy to simply sum this up by saying it's an urban legend - purely because the number of Paywave/Paypass capable cards in the US so small it wouldn't be worth it.




When I went into Walmart to get the Roku / Chrome cast the staff had never seen a chip card before, They were amazed


I used Paywave when on one of my trips there last year and the staff all looked at me strange as they'd never seen it used before.




The follow-up to those sort of situations is simple:  "Hi, Marty McFly, nice to meet you." and see if they pick up on the Back to the Future reference at the same time as you are digging into them about how behind the times they are.


Also, as Steve said, urban myth, mainly I think from TV, seriously "wireless capture/scan card inside passerby's jacket, transfer data to mag stripe" (as depicted twice in NCIS S08E08 - I recall this because I happened to bingewatch it last week), it's typical 'TV hacking'.

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  # 1036305 4-May-2014 09:47
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Pretty sure that the data on the NFC can't be put on a magstripe - there's way more information than just name on card, expiry, card number encoded on there - track 3 contains heaps of additional stuff which you would also have to get, which the NFC chip would not know.  And just as importantly, part of the information on the chip would be "there's a chip on this card.  Reject manual swipes" which if you encoded onto the stripe...

 
 
 
 


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Kyanar: Pretty sure that the data on the NFC can't be put on a magstripe - there's way more information than just name on card, expiry, card number encoded on there - track 3 contains heaps of additional stuff which you would also have to get, which the NFC chip would not know.  And just as importantly, part of the information on the chip would be "there's a chip on this card.  Reject manual swipes" which if you encoded onto the stripe...


When I scanned my card with my phone, I got the:

 

  • Card holder name
  • Card number
  • Expiry date

I believe there is a couple of other things there too like service number and transaction counter

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  # 1036597 4-May-2014 19:48
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Kyanar: Pretty sure that the data on the NFC can't be put on a magstripe - there's way more information than just name on card, expiry, card number encoded on there - track 3 contains heaps of additional stuff which you would also have to get, which the NFC chip would not know.  And just as importantly, part of the information on the chip would be "there's a chip on this card.  Reject manual swipes" which if you encoded onto the stripe...


When I scanned my card with my phone, I got the:

 

  • Card holder name
  • Card number
  • Expiry date

I believe there is a couple of other things there too like service number and transaction counter


Yup.  I'm pretty sure to do an NFC transaction, the reader needs to actually handshake and talk to the chip as well (it astounds me it can do it in a second or less!).

Just like to put that on a magstripe, you'd need a ton more details as well, from the original magstripe.

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