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  # 1054045 27-May-2014 07:46
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Geektastic: Reminds me of a picture disc I had when I was a teenager in the 80's of an album by a Danish(?) band called Witchfinder General. Nekkid women and blood all over it.

It was openly on sale and perhaps a step down from what you have put. I do remember being very surprised that New Zealand actually has an Official Censor in the 21st century when I first moved here. Quaint and somewhat 1940's.


NZ is not the only place that has media classification.


We have very liberal classification compared to our neighbours Australia, who refuses many games until they're edited to tone down the whatever.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia

If you like the music so much do a download as several had said...if that was a cover of a book or a movie you would be probably be arrested for having possession of it.  Music in NZ is not officially classified and is up to the industry itself to regulate.

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  # 1054047 27-May-2014 07:50
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Geektastic: Reminds me of a picture disc I had when I was a teenager in the 80's of an album by a Danish(?) band called Witchfinder General. Nekkid women and blood all over it.

It was openly on sale and perhaps a step down from what you have put. I do remember being very surprised that New Zealand actually has an Official Censor in the 21st century when I first moved here. Quaint and somewhat 1940's.


NZ is not the only place that has media classification.


Of course not, but it is one of the few I know of with an actual person called 'The Official Censor' which is a bit Orwellian...!





 
 
 
 


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  # 1054055 27-May-2014 08:23
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KiwiNZ:
Geektastic: Reminds me of a picture disc I had when I was a teenager in the 80's of an album by a Danish(?) band called Witchfinder General. Nekkid women and blood all over it.

It was openly on sale and perhaps a step down from what you have put. I do remember being very surprised that New Zealand actually has an Official Censor in the 21st century when I first moved here. Quaint and somewhat 1940's.


NZ is not the only place that has media classification.


Of course not, but it is one of the few I know of with an actual person called 'The Official Censor' which is a bit Orwellian...!


We do not have an official censor we do however have 'Chief Executive Officer and Chairperson" of The Office of Film & Literature Classification




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  # 1054107 27-May-2014 09:13
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I don't think that CD (cover) should be banned. It would seem to fall into the "horror" genre, where graphic dismemberment of human beings is pretty much the norm.  In this age it's probably pointless even trying to restrict access to such material.  Having "cleaned out" a few friend's virus and malware infested computers over the years and seen what their adolescent and pre-adolescent kids have been accessing on the 'net (this from "good families"), the battle to protect social mores was lost years ago.  
I'm more shocked these days when kids from good atheist families take up bible class.
The taboo which should never be compromised relates to exploitation of individuals unable to consent.  "Snuff" obviously falls in to that category, but that CD cover is just kids playing around with photoshop and fake blood from a costume/party store.  It's pretty lame.
Keep pushing the boundaries though - which won't be limitless - and you'll get kick-back - and those boundaries will inevitably close in.

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  # 1054147 27-May-2014 10:04
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KiwiNZ:
We do not have an official censor we do however have 'Chief Executive Officer and Chairperson" of The Office of Film & Literature Classification


The formal titles used in the legislation are "Chief Censor" and " Deputy Chief Censor"

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0094/31.0/whole.html#DLM313851

79 Membership of Classification Office

 

     

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    (1)The Classification Office consists of the Chief Censor and the Deputy Chief Censor

     

     


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  # 1054164 27-May-2014 10:15
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KiwiNZ:
We do not have an official censor we do however have 'Chief Executive Officer and Chairperson" of The Office of Film & Literature Classification


The formal titles used in the legislation are "Chief Censor" and " Deputy Chief Censor"

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0094/31.0/whole.html#DLM313851

79 Membership of Classification Office

 

     

  • (1)The Classification Office consists of the Chief Censor and the Deputy Chief Censor


Sections (79) and (80) were substituted by section (200) of the Crown entities act in which the The Office of Film and Literature Classification is empowered as. It has as its head Chief Executive Officer and Chairperson. 




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  # 1054215 27-May-2014 11:10
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KiwiNZ:
Geektastic:
KiwiNZ:
Geektastic: Reminds me of a picture disc I had when I was a teenager in the 80's of an album by a Danish(?) band called Witchfinder General. Nekkid women and blood all over it.

It was openly on sale and perhaps a step down from what you have put. I do remember being very surprised that New Zealand actually has an Official Censor in the 21st century when I first moved here. Quaint and somewhat 1940's.


NZ is not the only place that has media classification.


Of course not, but it is one of the few I know of with an actual person called 'The Official Censor' which is a bit Orwellian...!


We do not have an official censor we do however have 'Chief Executive Officer and Chairperson" of The Office of Film & Literature Classification


The relevant Act disagrees with you.  We have a Chief Censor http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0094/latest/DLM313300.html

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  # 1054218 27-May-2014 11:19
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KiwiNZ: 

Sections (79) and (80) were substituted by section (200) of the Crown entities act in which the The Office of Film and Literature Classification is empowered as. It has as its head Chief Executive Officer and Chairperson. 


That doesn't remove the Chief Censor role.  If you look here http://www.classificationoffice.govt.nz/about-censorship/about-the-classification-office.html#anchor03 you will see that Dr A R Jack currently holds three roles; Chief Censor, CE, and Chairperson.  Each of those roles will have distinct powers, the Chief Censor accountability is not automatically subsumed in the role of CEO.  Those powers may be delegated to someone else.  Obviously you wouldn't want a situation where if the Chief Censor's powers were delegated, the delegatee automatically had the authority (and finacial delegation) of the CEO and chairperson as well. 

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  # 1054244 27-May-2014 11:55
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We have Sheriffs but they don't ride horses or wear stars, titles don't necessarily define roles, We have media classification much the same as a lot of countries. Ours is very similar to the UK British Board of Film Classification.

 

 




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  # 1054245 27-May-2014 11:59
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KiwiNZ: We have Sheriffs but they don't ride horses or wear stars, titles don't necessarily define roles, We have media classification much the same as a lot of countries. Ours is very similar to the UK British Board of Film Classification.
 


The act defines the role.  It's been quoted for you several times.  You're just making yourself appear foolish.



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  # 1054255 27-May-2014 12:23
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freitasm: Do you need the CD? Why not buy the digital versions?



I consider myself a collector and I find no satisfaction in owning digital content - I ALWAYS buy physical copies when available.

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  # 1054436 27-May-2014 16:37
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'Collector' or not I'd be worried that buying this CD would get you added to some law enforcement watch list - particularly in the light of the recent events in the US.


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  # 1054496 27-May-2014 18:07
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freitasm: Do you need the CD? Why not buy the digital versions?



I consider myself a collector and I find no satisfaction in owning digital content - I ALWAYS buy physical copies when available.



Just wait until you are next somewhere you can get a physical copy in a shop (assuming there is somewhere) and throw it in your checked baggage. Chances of getting nabbed are pretty slim I would say.

Or get a mate somewhere less censorious to buy it, put it in a Jiffy bag labelled 'CD' and send it to you with a birthday card or something. At least that way you have not committed any offence if there is one. They can't blame you for not controlling what people post you as presents!





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  # 1054506 27-May-2014 18:40
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Man, that's like Disney compared to some of the really nasty stuff available on the internet.




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  # 1054519 27-May-2014 18:58
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DarthKermit: Man, that's like Disney compared to some of the really nasty stuff available on the internet.


yeah, it doesn't do anything for me but what can you except; Everyone takes offence to anything these days.

I think I'll just go ahead and buy it and hope for the best.

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