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  #1063914 12-Jun-2014 11:10
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KiwiNZ:

actually being concerned about apostrophes could well indicate OCPD


That would be OPD.  No compulsions.  

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  #1063917 12-Jun-2014 11:17
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Glassboy:
KiwiNZ:

actually being concerned about apostrophes could well indicate OCPD


That would be OPD.  No compulsions.  


I will stick with OCPD but I wont get compulsive over itwink




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KiwiNZ:
Glassboy:
KiwiNZ:

actually being concerned about apostrophes could well indicate OCPD


That would be OPD.  No compulsions.  


I will stick with OCPD but I wont get compulsive over itwink


Says the person compulsively replying.

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  #1063920 12-Jun-2014 11:19
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who me?




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  #1063926 12-Jun-2014 11:34
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Oh Oh, next can we discuss the awesomeness of the comma? IE whether we should use the Oxford Comma or not (coffee, milk, tea, and jam VS coffee, milk, tea and jam)... lots of long pointless arguments in our house growing up over this abomination.

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  #1063978 12-Jun-2014 12:17
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joker97: Ok maybe half a tart head but still, I've been losing so much sleep over apostrophes.
So please shoot me later, but allow me to post the official correct way to use an apostrophe.

Some highlights:

The best way to get apostrophes right is to understand when and why they are used. There are two main cases –

 


Apostrophes and plural forms
The general rule is that you should not use an apostrophe to form the plurals of nouns, abbreviations, or dates made up of numbers:
just add -s (or -es, if the noun in question forms its plural with -es).

For example:
euro euros (e.g. The cost of the trip is 570 euros.)
pizza pizzas (e.g. Traditional Italian pizzas are thin and crisp.)
apple apples (e.g. She buys big bags of organic apples and carrots.)
MP MPs (e.g. Local MPs are divided on this issue.)
1990 1990s (e.g. The situation was different in the 1990s.)
It's very important to remember this grammatical rule.



Ok shoot me now. Phew.

I loose sleep on people that don't know their Euro (singular) from Euro (plural). There is no "s". See here under characteristics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro

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  #1064017 12-Jun-2014 12:51
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Bought is the past tense of buy.
Brought is the past tense of bring.

That's all I've got to say.




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  #1064030 12-Jun-2014 13:02
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freitasm: People using "would of" instead of "would have"...



This one is like fingernails on a blackboard to me!

There was a campaign to kill the apostrophe
http://www.killtheapostrophe.com/

Down with apostrophes!




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In formal writing or communication I am a bit more strict  but in everyday stuff I just don't care, if I can understand what is being conveyed then it's cool. The self appointed spelling or grammar police annoy me way more than spelling or grammar errors.




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KiwiNZ: In formal writing or communication I am a bit more strict  but in everyday stuff I just don't care, if I can understand what is being conveyed then it's cool. The self appointed spelling or grammar police annoy me way more than spelling or grammar errors.


Which leads me to another thing to consider: if I visit a business website and they have apostrophes in wrong places, or "should of", or "their" instead of "they are" I will not consider the business worth it - if they can't pay attention to these things how can I trust them to pay attention to our requirements?

I read somewhere a few months ago about business losing money by having people "walk away" from their websites because of spelling and grammar mistakes.

If it is a professional publication (website. billboard, paper) then it should be correct. A bit less strict if it's a conversation. Journalists should always be correct - I've seen a number of "their", "should of" and spelling mistakes on Stuff and NZ Herald...







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freitasm:
KiwiNZ: In formal writing or communication I am a bit more strict  but in everyday stuff I just don't care, if I can understand what is being conveyed then it's cool. The self appointed spelling or grammar police annoy me way more than spelling or grammar errors.


Which leads me to another thing to consider: if I visit a business website and they have apostrophes in wrong places, or "should of", or "their" instead of "they are" I will not consider the business worth it - if they can't pay attention to these things how can I trust them to pay attention to our requirements?

I read somewhere a few months ago about business losing money by having people "walk away" from their websites because of spelling and grammar mistakes.

If it is a professional publication (website. billboard, paper) then it should be correct. A bit less strict if it's a conversation. Journalists should always be correct - I've seen a number of "their", "should of" and spelling mistakes on Stuff and NZ Herald...





I would consider a business website as formal communication and as I wrote I am a bit more strict on that.

On a news website it should be correct but in a printed newspaper where the deadlines are tight the odd spelling and or grammar mistakes are excusable.




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  #1064067 12-Jun-2014 13:55
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In case anyone was wondering: Grammar Nazis actually exist!

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KiwiNZ: In formal writing or communication I am a bit more strict  but in everyday stuff I just don't care, if I can understand what is being conveyed then it's cool. The self appointed spelling or grammar police annoy me way more than spelling or grammar errors.


I used to be a pedant, but having my son diagnosed with dyslexia a few years ago has made me a lot more tolerant and realise there are folk out there who struggle with correct spelling and grammar, and it's not just laziness.




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kingjj: Oh Oh, next can we discuss the awesomeness of the comma? IE whether we should use the Oxford Comma or not (coffee, milk, tea, and jam VS coffee, milk, tea and jam)... lots of long pointless arguments in our house growing up over this abomination.


Sorry, is there actually a case for not using the Oxford comma?

http://www.verbicidemagazine.com/2011/09/20/strippers-jfk-and-stalin-illustrate-why-you-should-use-the-serial-comma/ 

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freitasm:
KiwiNZ: In formal writing or communication I am a bit more strict  but in everyday stuff I just don't care, if I can understand what is being conveyed then it's cool. The self appointed spelling or grammar police annoy me way more than spelling or grammar errors.


Which leads me to another thing to consider: if I visit a business website and they have apostrophes in wrong places, or "should of", or "their" instead of "they are" I will not consider the business worth it - if they can't pay attention to these things how can I trust them to pay attention to our requirements?

I read somewhere a few months ago about business losing money by having people "walk away" from their websites because of spelling and grammar mistakes.

If it is a professional publication (website. billboard, paper) then it should be correct. A bit less strict if it's a conversation. Journalists should always be correct - I've seen a number of "their", "should of" and spelling mistakes on Stuff and NZ Herald...





I remember many moons ago while a teenager looking at a new web server monitoring service. On the main page (which was quite flash at the time) they showed a world map with all their monitoring locations around the world. Closest one to us was in 'Sdyney' (as repeated throughout their website). Quick email and it was fixed, in the post a week later was a thank you letter and a fridge magnet. Couldn't believe they made such a simple mistake but they way they handled it regained my faith (and custom for a while).

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