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  Reply # 1064075 12-Jun-2014 14:04
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kingjj: Oh Oh, next can we discuss the awesomeness of the comma? IE whether we should use the Oxford Comma or not (coffee, milk, tea, and jam VS coffee, milk, tea and jam)... lots of long pointless arguments in our house growing up over this abomination.


Sorry, is there actually a case for not using the Oxford comma?

http://www.verbicidemagazine.com/2011/09/20/strippers-jfk-and-stalin-illustrate-why-you-should-use-the-serial-comma/


The Wikipedia page on the Oxford Comma (aka Serial Comma) has a good pro/con list and reasons why you would or wouldn't use it. Many style guides dictate one way or the other, although the consensus (from what I've seen, especially in academia) seems to lean towards its use (although I'm personally against it).


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  Reply # 1064109 12-Jun-2014 14:30
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andrewNZ:  I had a tutor who used to call me "pendantic". I always wondered, "is it being pedantic to tell him he's saying it wrong?"



No. he was calling you a knob.  Pendant [wikipedia.org]

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  Reply # 1064114 12-Jun-2014 14:37
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While we're being pedantic, let's talk about acronyms the subject of the origianal post.

"I am OCD?"

You be afflicted with or suffer from OCD, but youc can't be OCD.

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  Reply # 1064142 12-Jun-2014 15:00
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something that does get me a little is 'affect' and 'effect' and the uses there of




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  Reply # 1064143 12-Jun-2014 15:03
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KiwiNZ: something that does get me a little is 'affect' and 'effect' and the uses there of


Pffft the difference is obvious.

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  Reply # 1064145 12-Jun-2014 15:05
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yet so many use them incorrectly.




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  Reply # 1064148 12-Jun-2014 15:07
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hashbrown: ASB Bank

PIN number, ATM machine...

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  Reply # 1064151 12-Jun-2014 15:09
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andrewNZ:  I had a tutor who used to call me "pendantic". I always wondered, "is it being pedantic to tell him he's saying it wrong?"



No. he was calling you a knob.  Pendant [wikipedia.org]


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  Reply # 1064167 12-Jun-2014 15:29
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On a related note, I noticed that one of the shops in town is under 'new' management. At least it doesn't have any Unnecessary Capitals.

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  Reply # 1064173 12-Jun-2014 15:35
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hashbrown: While we're being pedantic, let's talk about acronyms the subject of the origianal post.

"I am OCD?"

You be afflicted with or suffer from OCD, but youc can't be OCD.

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ASB Bank is correct as the ASB Group has several companies such as...

ASB Bank Ltd
ASB Securities Ltd
ASB Group Investments Ltd





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  Reply # 1064190 12-Jun-2014 16:06
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The worst misuse of written English I've seen lately - a headline on our favourite news site:


Man updates his "facebook" while on the run.


Between all the grammar and spelling mistakes and its pointless human interest dribble stories, I don't know why anyone still goes there, but I do...



I am a wannabe Grammar Nazi and have OCD - I don't suffer at all...

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Bee: The worst misuse of written English I've seen lately - a headline on our favourite news site:
Man updates his "facebook" while on the run.
Between all the grammar and spelling mistakes and its pointless human interest dribble stories, I don't know why anyone still goes there, but I do...
I am a wannabe Grammar Nazi and have OCD - I don't suffer at all...


You seem to be referring to Stuff, but your use of the word news confuses me. 

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  Reply # 1064199 12-Jun-2014 16:26
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Glassboy:
Bee: The worst misuse of written English I've seen lately - a headline on our favourite news site:
Man updates his "facebook" while on the run.
Between all the grammar and spelling mistakes and its pointless human interest dribble stories, I don't know why anyone still goes there, but I do...
I am a wannabe Grammar Nazi and have OCD - I don't suffer at all...


You seem to be referring to Stuff, but your use of the word news confuses me. 



Sorry, yes I should have said "news".

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  Reply # 1064363 12-Jun-2014 19:48
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Behodar: On a related note, I noticed that one of the shops in town is under 'new' management. At least it doesn't have any Unnecessary Capitals.



A key part of my job is editing documents. If there was ever an organisation that suffered from collective overcapitalitis it would be where I work (NZDF). If it's important, use a capital is the General Philosophy. (And, seriously, that's how it would be written by some!) It sometimes seems I'm the only one fighting against this...

I'm happy to acknowledge I'm a pedant when it comes to grammar etc. (goes with the inclusion of the word 'anal' in my job title!). I personally think it's reasonable that people should use their knowledge of grammar and spelling in most situations, including less formal settings like here on GZ. It's all about communication: the more accurate the writing, typically the easier it is to read and understand. Why place unnecessary barriers to communication? There are a few people here whose posts take heaps longer to read simply because they appear to have an aversion to things as simple as capital letters at the start of a sentence and full-stops at the end. 

A few months ago there was excited talk about the 'death of the comma' (similar to the case of the 'death of the apostrophe'). During the segment on this on Nat Rad they read out some classic examples of why the claim was so premature; I can't remember the specific examples but the internet's full of them. One of my favourites is "Let's eat Grandpa" (as opposed to "Let's eat, Grandpa")!

(Edited for minor corrections - confirmation of my anal nature!.)


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  Reply # 1064367 12-Jun-2014 19:51
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A key part of my job  is editing documents. If there was ever an organisation that suffered from collective overcapitalitis it would be where I work (NZDF). If it's important, use a capital is the General Philosophy. (And, seriously, that's how it would be written by some!) It sometimes seems I'm the only one fighting against this...



Most Government agencies suffer from a plague of random capitalisation. 

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