Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15
2106 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 525


  Reply # 1074515 25-Jun-2014 19:46
Send private message

We will have to wait and see then :)

3109 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 940

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1074525 25-Jun-2014 20:11
Send private message

Yabanize: The digital millenium copyright act of 1998 says: Upon receiving proper notification of claimed infringement, the provider must expeditiously take down or block access to the material.

Which means mega upload has abided with the law, It does not say they must delete it or do the same with other links or instances of the same file

If this is what the act says (I haven't bothered looking) then by simply removing links megaupload didn't comply with the law as links are not 'the material'.

2106 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 525


  Reply # 1074526 25-Jun-2014 20:12
Send private message

Dratsab:
Yabanize: The digital millenium copyright act of 1998 says: Upon receiving proper notification of claimed infringement, the provider must expeditiously take down or block access to the material.

Which means mega upload has abided with the law, It does not say they must delete it or do the same with other links or instances of the same file

If this is what the act says (I haven't bothered looking) then by simply removing links megaupload didn't comply with the law as links are not 'the material'.


They blocked access to it 

gzt

10024 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


  Reply # 1074535 25-Jun-2014 20:33
Send private message

This kind of thing is usually decided by civil suits followed by settlements and agreements (sometimes before the suit concludes). The situation KDc is in is very different. The compliance thing you are talking about could well remain significantly undecided. As I understand it KDc is charged with the crime of 'criminal conspiracy' and that is key thing.

gzt

10024 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


  Reply # 1074540 25-Jun-2014 20:39
One person supports this post
Send private message

Imo it's all a bit silly. If the FBI or whatever had bugged Youtube instead they would have heard some similar conversations and some similar internal watching/listening of copyright material.

834 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 260

Trusted

  Reply # 1074725 26-Jun-2014 00:15
Send private message

gzt: Imo it's all a bit silly. If the FBI or whatever had bugged Youtube instead they would have heard some similar conversations and some similar internal watching/listening of copyright material.


The would have heard people negotiating licencing deals with content owners.  Youtube is another situation all together.  Not representing Russell Brown as a journalist but he wrote about the recent nonsence recently http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/friday-music-fkyoutube/

2106 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 525


  Reply # 1074734 26-Jun-2014 01:33
Send private message

Heres an interview by TVNZ Q and A with Kim Dotcom about the internet party back in march if anyone is interested
http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/watch-extended-kim-dotcom-interview-video-5879189

gzt

10024 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


  Reply # 1074815 26-Jun-2014 09:39
Send private message

Glassboy:
gzt: Imo it's all a bit silly. If the FBI or whatever had bugged Youtube instead they would have heard some similar conversations and some similar internal watching/listening of copyright material.


The would have heard people negotiating licencing deals with content owners.  Youtube is another situation all together.  Not representing Russell Brown as a journalist but he wrote about the recent nonsence recently http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/friday-music-fkyoutube/

Youtube is in a very strong position to negotiate because they have all the content ; ). They have existing relationships with record lablels, ironically in part because of previous litigation or planned litigation by those labels. At present YT is trying to close a deal with the indies by telling them no more advertising revenue until you agree to our terms for your content. That is not the only thing they would have heard. Instead of beginning civil litigation with Mega or opening negotiations, the record companies chose to use influence instead.

12688 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5977

Trusted

  Reply # 1074836 26-Jun-2014 10:05
Send private message

Those of my generation will understand what I am saying. The Mega*.*  take downs etc were Claytons take downs.




Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 It's our only home, lets clean it up then...

 

Take My Advice, Pull Down Your Pants And Slide On The Ice!

 

 


gzt

10024 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


  Reply # 1074838 26-Jun-2014 10:08
Send private message

Even if that is/was the case, does this require anything more than civil litigation to sort it out and come to terms? Spying and helicopters seem a very bad way to resolve the issue.

834 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 260

Trusted

  Reply # 1074848 26-Jun-2014 10:25
Send private message

gzt: Even if that is/was the case, does this require anything more than civil litigation to sort it out and come to terms? Spying and helicopters seem a very bad way to resolve the issue.


Why do you assume anyone wants to resolve anything?  I'd read it more that Dotcom's business models suit no one but himself and so he becomes a target for everyone.

12688 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5977

Trusted

  Reply # 1074887 26-Jun-2014 11:08
Send private message

gzt: Even if that is/was the case, does this require anything more than civil litigation to sort it out and come to terms? Spying and helicopters seem a very bad way to resolve the issue.


It made good television for the Americans tongue-out




Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 It's our only home, lets clean it up then...

 

Take My Advice, Pull Down Your Pants And Slide On The Ice!

 

 


gzt

10024 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


  Reply # 1074892 26-Jun-2014 11:15
Send private message

Glassboy:
gzt: Even if that is/was the case, does this require anything more than civil litigation to sort it out and come to terms? Spying and helicopters seem a very bad way to resolve the issue.


Why do you assume anyone wants to resolve anything?  I'd read it more that Dotcom's business models suit no one but himself and so he becomes a target for everyone.

I do not assume they wish to resolve anything. I'm just suggesting civil litigation is the appropriate route for the MPAA and RIAA to take.

834 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 260

Trusted

  Reply # 1074900 26-Jun-2014 11:26
Send private message

gzt:
Glassboy:
gzt: Even if that is/was the case, does this require anything more than civil litigation to sort it out and come to terms? Spying and helicopters seem a very bad way to resolve the issue.


Why do you assume anyone wants to resolve anything?  I'd read it more that Dotcom's business models suit no one but himself and so he becomes a target for everyone.

I do not assume they wish to resolve anything. I'm just suggesting civil litigation is the appropriate route for the MPAA and RIAA to take.


Not if you've broken criminal law which the FBI believe he has.

gzt

10024 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


  Reply # 1075093 26-Jun-2014 16:04
Send private message

Glassboy:
gzt:
Glassboy:
gzt: Even if that is/was the case, does this require anything more than civil litigation to sort it out and come to terms? Spying and helicopters seem a very bad way to resolve the issue.


Why do you assume anyone wants to resolve anything?  I'd read it more that Dotcom's business models suit no one but himself and so he becomes a target for everyone.

I do not assume they wish to resolve anything. I'm just suggesting civil litigation is the appropriate route for the MPAA and RIAA to take.


Not if you've broken criminal law which the FBI believe he has.

I would suggest that belief started with the MPAA and RIAA, and after a lot of lobbying was finally taken up by the FBI. Similar conspiracy charges could have been (and still could be) brought against any number of competitors including Youtube with this kind of approach.

Personally I expect the reason the industry took this extreme approach in the case of Megaupload was that MU was emerging as a viable competitor in the distribution industry. It appeared to me from the endorsements MU was getting and the people beginning to associate with it, that one or more major artists were seriously beginning to consider releasing via MU.

1 | ... | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel introduces new NUC kits and NUC mini PCs
Posted 16-Aug-2018 11:03


The Warehouse leaps into the AI future with Google
Posted 15-Aug-2018 17:56


Targus set sights on enterprise and consumer growth in New Zealand
Posted 13-Aug-2018 13:47


Huawei to distribute nova 3i in New Zealand
Posted 9-Aug-2018 16:23


Home robot Vector to be available in New Zealand stores
Posted 9-Aug-2018 14:47


Panasonic announces new 2018 OLED TV line up
Posted 7-Aug-2018 16:38


Kordia completes first live 4K TV broadcast
Posted 1-Aug-2018 13:00


Schools get safer and smarter internet with Managed Network Upgrade
Posted 30-Jul-2018 20:01


DNC wants a safer .nz in the coming year
Posted 26-Jul-2018 16:08


Auldhouse becomes an AWS Authorised Training Delivery Partner in New Zealand
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:55


Rakuten Kobo launches Kobo Clara HD entry level reader
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:44


Kiwi team reaches semi-finals at the Microsoft Imagine Cup
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:38


KidsCan App to Help Kiwi Children in Need
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:32


FUJIFILM announces new high-performance lenses
Posted 24-Jul-2018 14:57


New FUJIFILM XF10 introduces square mode for Instagram sharing
Posted 24-Jul-2018 14:44



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.