Geektastic:heylinb4nz: Some examples of bad law\police procedure we as firearms owners have to deal with a) we need a permit to import a front or rear sight because they class it as a part, but you can buy in NZ without a permit. Sights dont even have serial numbers so what are they trying to track \ prevent ? b) I can order a foregrip from overseas for my A-cat rifle, paintball gun, airsoft gun......but if I intend to use it on my pistol or carbine, I need a permit, again if I buy in NZ I dont need anything.
c) my AR15 with a fixed stock is classed as A-cat, the same AR15 with adjustable stock is E-cat (regardless of magazine size) Simply being in possession of a compatible stock is cause for prosecution, even if I had something it could legally fit on....they still get you for intention.
d) I can buy 30 round mags if I want legally, but cant legally fit them to an A-cat rifle (making an MSSA)....see point a) yet I need a permit for something as inane as a front sight. Duh !!!
e) If I want to run a 20 round mag on my A-cat Ruger 10/22 I need to sign it up as an E-Cat. If I sell the mag, and then want to sell the rifle..I can only sell it as an E-Cat (the change is permenant)..even though the same rifle can be brought as an A-cat in the shop.
f) a pistol shooter had to attend a pistol club 12 times a year to keep their licence and jump through many hoops to gain their licence and permits galore to buy a handgun, the owner of a A-Cat dragunov sniper rifle (7.62 caliber) simply needs a basic firearms licence, rudimentary storage and doesnt need to belong to any shooting association.
Obviously the police have to much time on their hands and are certainly focusing on the wrong people and things.
That is the ridiculous thing about the E cat rules.
A .223 cal AR 15 in A cat form is exactly identical in "power" as one with say an adjustable stock that is E cat.
Changing the stock alters nothing about the actual capability of the gun.
It's as stupid as banning automatic opening pocket knives. If I have one with thumbstuds I can open in 1 second and another identical blade with an auto mechanism opening it with a spring that opens in 1 second the "dangerousness" of the two is identical. The blades are the same and so is the handle. Yet one is legal and one not.
Or banning knives with double edges. Coz it makes them twice as dangerous…not.
Where's the logic in any of this?!
No logic...just emotion, lack of logic and personal agenda.
- Firearms owners will always use logic when coming up with good law
- Non owners will use emotion
- Politicians listen to non owners (majority) and police...and rarely use logic.
- Police simply dont want us to have guns and will gladly implement (and even suggest) to politicians what they want.