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  Reply # 1129348 15-Sep-2014 19:36
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SaltyNZ: Greenwald is a good speaker. Quite engaging so far...

EDIT - except a lot is redacted on the slides. Would have been more convincing without the black bars.


I always get a kick out of this piece by the satirical site The Onion. CIA Realizes It's Been Using Black Highlighters All These Years.







 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1129350 15-Sep-2014 19:43
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out of interest, whats the source of these screenshots?




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  Reply # 1129354 15-Sep-2014 20:00
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I have to say Snowden was pretty good, with compelling arguments. The same for Greenwald, who is a very good speaker.





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  Reply # 1129355 15-Sep-2014 20:04
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Claims of cable access total nonsense

The claims made today by journalist Glenn Greenwald that the Southern Cross undersea cables have been tapped into or accessed are total nonsense said the CEO Anthony Briscoe today.

The cables, which link New Zealand to Australia, the Pacific and the United States, are untouched, Mr Briscoe noted.

“I can tell you quite categorically there is no facility by the NSA, the GCSB or anyone else on the Southern Cross cable network.”

“Let’s be quite blunt. To do this, we would have to take the cable out of service and I can assure you there’s no way we are going to do that.

“It is a physical impossibility to do it without us knowing. There is just no way it can be done. I can give you absolute assurances from Southern Cross – and me as a Kiwi – that there are no sites anywhere on the Southern Cross network that have to do with interception or anything else the NSA or GCSB might want to do.”

He added, any breach of the cable would require temporarily shutting down its transmission for hours. Southern Cross has monitoring systems built into its computers watching for any such break and they would be triggered as soon as any attempt was made.

“There isn’t a technology in the world, as far as I am aware, that can splice into an undersea fibre optic cable without causing a serious outage and sending alarms back to our network operation centre, that something’s wrong.”

Southern Cross is obligated to comply with the well-established and public lawful surveillance requirements in the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act and related laws in the United States. However there is no equipment installed in the New Zealand or United States landing stations, or on the cable itself, which could result in mass interception of communications.

We are very disturbed that such unfounded allegations have been made and feel that it’s important for all New Zealanders to understand that this outrageous claim is totally untrue.






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  Reply # 1129367 15-Sep-2014 20:12
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But would they know if the facility was imbedded into an upgrade?

Didn't the cable get a capacity upgrade recently?
Who supplied the hardware and controls the firmware?

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  Reply # 1129369 15-Sep-2014 20:14
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Exactly. The way the press release is worded gives the impression "interception" for them would be only possible if someone put a splitter in the cable itself - forgetting about all other electronic means that would require minimum disruption.





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  Reply # 1129370 15-Sep-2014 20:15
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Oh this press release... so many openings for theorys....


 




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  Reply # 1129371 15-Sep-2014 20:16
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freitasm: Press release received:


Claims of cable access total nonsense

We are very disturbed that such unfounded allegations have been made and feel that it’s important for all New Zealanders to understand that this outrageous claim is totally untrue.




Well of course he will say that. He will be legally obliged to deny the existence of such a tap, even if he *does* know about it, which he may not. The US tapped Soviet undersea cables in the 60s and 70s. More modern optical fibre cables present a bigger challenge, but the tapping technology has no doubt improved since then as well.





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Why intercept SXC under water or even at a ground station? Intercepting it inside the US once traffic leaves the ground station is far easier.



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  Reply # 1129376 15-Sep-2014 20:24
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sbiddle: Why intercept SXC under water or even at a ground station? Intercepting it inside the US once traffic leaves the ground station is far easier.




People are getting confused about their OSI layers..., so yes SXC's media statement is 100% correct.

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