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  Reply # 1132932 20-Sep-2014 22:05
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Even if National can govern alone, I imagine they will still do deals with all they can?

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  Reply # 1132933 20-Sep-2014 22:06
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where it suits




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  Reply # 1132934 20-Sep-2014 22:07
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Maggie Barry STOMPED in. I dislike her though :) 


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  Reply # 1132935 20-Sep-2014 22:07
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there will be a lot of soul searching and accusations but I think the internet party debacle did nothing for the left but thought Cunniffe started to show himself as being a prospective PM in the making.

I still don't get the Labour voters flocking after Winston




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he offers free everthing




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  Reply # 1132938 20-Sep-2014 22:09
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networkn: Labour might have to face the facts they will have to find some actual policies for next election rather than just opposing for the sake of it. 

This was a savage beating by anyones stretch of the imagination. Is it the lowest result in recent history? 


Still ahead of the 21% National got in 2002.

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  Reply # 1132941 20-Sep-2014 22:11
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networkn: Labour might have to face the facts they will have to find some actual policies for next election rather than just opposing for the sake of it. 

This was a savage beating by anyones stretch of the imagination. Is it the lowest result in recent history? 


Still ahead of the 21% National got in 2002.



both results possibly for the same reason wrong people and policies not thought through




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  Reply # 1132942 20-Sep-2014 22:11
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joker97:
PhantomNVD: How come 3 parties with 1% or less (so far) get seats but another with 4.6% doesn't?


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  Reply # 1132943 20-Sep-2014 22:14
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jeffnz: there will be a lot of soul searching and accusations but I think the internet party debacle did nothing for the left but thought Cunniffe started to show himself as being a prospective PM in the making.

I still don't get the Labour voters flocking after Winston


I'm afraid to say that that guy gives me the creeps. He says some of the dumbest things, I can't imagine him in the white house or other places like G8 Summits. 

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  Reply # 1132944 20-Sep-2014 22:18
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networkn: I think I would be happiest to see Hone Harawira gone, I'd take that in place of National leading alone I think. That guy is just the worst.


I'm not a fan of his and the way he carry's on but feel sorry for him that he was lead astray by the Internet party, I don't know what he was thinking as he goes against most of what he stands for.

Looks like it is slipping away from him as the majority is growing


the Internet alliance killed it.

if KDC did not attack John Key like that, then JK and DC and WP would not have ganged up to get rid of Internet-Mana as an entity




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  Reply # 1132945 20-Sep-2014 22:19
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networkn: Sobering news hopefully unrelated: 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11328511


Probably just a nutter!





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  Reply # 1132946 20-Sep-2014 22:20
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I'm sure some phone calls would have gone around and had something like "Look Winston I know we have differences but let's just agree we don't need this around, why don't you get Hone out that way I-M is gone and you and I know that's the best thing to do" and then a few minutes later "Look DC, we are poles apart but tell your guy to get rid of Hone and we'll have a cup of tea when we're retired, cheers"




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  Reply # 1132947 20-Sep-2014 22:25
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jeffnz: there will be a lot of soul searching and accusations but I think the internet party debacle did nothing for the left but thought Cunniffe started to show himself as being a prospective PM in the making.

I still don't get the Labour voters flocking after Winston


I'm afraid to say that that guy gives me the creeps. He says some of the dumbest things, I can't imagine him in the white house or other places like G8 Summits. 


Agreed. He is not alone in that however!!





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  Reply # 1132948 20-Sep-2014 22:26
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cue George W Bush





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