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  #1145438 2-Oct-2014 10:45
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I suggested collars - the noise/scent kind. I don't believe in using electric shock collars at all, but the noise and scent one I consider humane.

I wouldn't say they are a first resort but they do work in combination with other methods.  If used with some thought, the dogs won't associate the unpleasant noise/small with the collar but with the act of barking.  In my particular case three weeks use enabled me to stop my dog barking at people walking past our section.  This was the difference between keeping and losing my dog. 

You shouldn't need your dog to make noise to know they are becoming uncomfortable. Dogs communicate dis-comfort or anxiety in many silent ways - ears, mouth, tail, posture, hair along the spine (hackles), breathing.  Noise may be the dogs second to last resort, and we know what the last resort is.

I loathe bark collars. They punish a dog for doing what comes naturally, for good reasons, and can make dogs fearful of barking. Some dogs work out that the collar is to blame and get panicked at the sight of collars. Others, like my Dad's dog, don't bark when the collar is on and go nuts with noise as soon as it's off. Teaching a pup that quiet is good and unnecessary barking is frowned upon is all that's needed. If a dog keeps barking then its up to the humans to work out why. 

Dogs should never be discouraged from appropriate barking. A normally quiet German Shepherd two doors down set up a real ruckus one evening. The tone of the bark and it being unusual alerted us to something being wrong and we called the police. It turned out there was a very serious domestic violence incident with a woman critically injured. That dog probably saved her life.  




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sir1963: Wow, I hope your baby does not cry, probably get complaints from the neighbours about the noise. Oh and the lawn mower, car doors....
See where this is going ? 


Normal noise is fine, understandable, acceptable.
This dog is barking 40-50 times a day. For 10-60 seconds at a time. Right next to my house.
This is not fine. Nor understandable and it's extremely unacceptable when you factor in:
a) They're home! Yet they LET their dog bark incessantly.
b) They know we have a wee one, and even apologised for the barking, yet do NOTHING about it.
c) We're not the only people to actually get so damn frustrated we had to complain to the council.
d) It's bordering on animal cruelty as they leave their dog outside with no interaction, no consoling, and let it bark at every man and their dog (1000's a week) who walk past. 

You clearly don't understand what it's like to have either have a wee one who's relying on you to provide it with sound sleep. And you don't understand what it's like to live next to a constantly irritating noise like a dog barking EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.

 
 
 
 


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  #1145475 2-Oct-2014 11:23
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Record it. Longer the recording the better.... then let dog control see it. 




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I have edited three posts. If you guys involve someone's mother again, or if you mention the possibility of a better world if someone's mother decided not to have a baby... Well, immediate ban without warning.






 

 

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xpd: Record it. Longer the recording the better.... then let dog control see it. 


+1. Dog control officer I spoke to said in order for us to take this further we need proof - times, duration and dates logged.

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tehgerbil:
xpd: Record it. Longer the recording the better.... then let dog control see it. 


+1. Dog control officer I spoke to said in order for us to take this further we need proof - times, duration and dates logged.


Our council sent us paperwork on which we were to log issues with the dog; see if your council has something similar perhaps, as you'll then be sure it meets their requirements.

I totally sympathize with your situation, having been in one very similar. But just be patient and follow due process, and ignore the irrational responses posted here. Dog lovers can get a little protective!

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