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  #1166717 1-Nov-2014 23:06
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KiwiNZ:
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Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


Not sure what your point is


The point is that the person who could benefit of the car park (this woman) wasn't in need of it because the person doing the shopping was perfectly capable of walking the car park from wherever they could find a spot. It wasn't a convenience for her, it was a convenience for this other person who didn't need it.




 

 

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  #1166741 2-Nov-2014 06:57
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freitasm:
KiwiNZ:
Bung:
Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


Not sure what your point is


The point is that the person who could benefit of the car park (this woman) wasn't in need of it because the person doing the shopping was perfectly capable of walking the car park from wherever they could find a spot. It wasn't a convenience for her, it was a convenience for this other person who didn't need it.


And of course it was clearly known that the disabled person waiting in the car had not been out of it and returned to rest or was waiting for the other person to return and was then going to get out and do their stuff.
Also ambulatory people qualify for mobility permits if they meet the criteria, not just those confined to chairs.

 
 
 
 


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  #1166746 2-Nov-2014 07:57
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Bung:
Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


How do you know that the person who got out wasn't the one who actually qualified for the card (or qualified as well)?

There's plenty of disablities that qualify for a card where people are not confined to a wheelchair - The recognised symbol for mobility carparks has a wheelchair, but you don't need a wheelchair to qualify.

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  #1166755 2-Nov-2014 08:25
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Mobility Parking Permit - rule is;

"If you, the permit holder, are staying in the vehicle, you must park in a standard parking space (not a designated mobility parking space), and the permit cannot be displayed.

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  #1166763 2-Nov-2014 08:42
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Sidestep: Mobility Parking Permit - rule is;

"If you, the permit holder, are staying in the vehicle, you must park in a standard parking space (not a designated mobility parking space), and the permit cannot be displayed.


However it is OK for said disabled person to stay in the vehicle while say my wife dashes in does something fast the comes back and I can get out and do my stuff at my pace.

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  #1166780 2-Nov-2014 09:44
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Lyderies: Hi All

Would my car below be illegally parked?

We have been parking like this for over a year and never had trouble with tickets until recently

https://i.imgur.com/3567YyW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lEewWxl.jpg

Who do i call to argue this? The Auckland council?

Cheers


That's not parked, it's abandoned.





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  #1166783 2-Nov-2014 09:46
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RunningMan:
Bung:
Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


How do you know that the person who got out wasn't the one who actually qualified for the card (or qualified as well)?

There's plenty of disablities that qualify for a card where people are not confined to a wheelchair - The recognised symbol for mobility carparks has a wheelchair, but you don't need a wheelchair to qualify.


My MiL has one in the UK and she is not wheelchair bound. She shares it out amongst local family who may need to borrow it for the odd day when she isn't using it!!





 
 
 
 


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  #1166784 2-Nov-2014 09:48
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I love the whole "Ive done this for a year and its never been a problem"
Seriously?

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  #1166794 2-Nov-2014 10:13
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Geektastic:
RunningMan:
Bung:
Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


How do you know that the person who got out wasn't the one who actually qualified for the card (or qualified as well)?

There's plenty of disablities that qualify for a card where people are not confined to a wheelchair - The recognised symbol for mobility carparks has a wheelchair, but you don't need a wheelchair to qualify.


My MiL has one in the UK and she is not wheelchair bound. She shares it out amongst local family who may need to borrow it for the odd day when she isn't using it!!


I have the odd person ask if they can borrow my mobility card, I decline but always offer to give them my disability

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  #1166821 2-Nov-2014 11:28
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KiwiNZ:
Geektastic:
RunningMan:
Bung:
Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


How do you know that the person who got out wasn't the one who actually qualified for the card (or qualified as well)?

There's plenty of disablities that qualify for a card where people are not confined to a wheelchair - The recognised symbol for mobility carparks has a wheelchair, but you don't need a wheelchair to qualify.


My MiL has one in the UK and she is not wheelchair bound. She shares it out amongst local family who may need to borrow it for the odd day when she isn't using it!!


I have the odd person ask if they can borrow my mobility card, I decline but always offer to give them my disability


My MiL's disability (aside from her age!) is two replacement hips...! So I probably will end up with hers one day. My replacement heart valve does not count!





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  #1166843 2-Nov-2014 12:06
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Geektastic:
RunningMan:
Bung:
Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


How do you know that the person who got out wasn't the one who actually qualified for the card (or qualified as well)?

There's plenty of disablities that qualify for a card where people are not confined to a wheelchair - The recognised symbol for mobility carparks has a wheelchair, but you don't need a wheelchair to qualify.


My MiL has one in the UK and she is not wheelchair bound. She shares it out amongst local family who may need to borrow it for the odd day when she isn't using it!!


Sadly, there are some mobility permit holders that do this. They should know better. 

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Geektastic: 
My MiL's disability (aside from her age!) is two replacement hips...! So I probably will end up with hers one day. My replacement heart valve does not count!

 

It would if physical exertion put you at serious risk. Presumably, your heart valve is working ;)

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  #1166852 2-Nov-2014 12:11
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Geektastic:
KiwiNZ:
Geektastic:
RunningMan:
Bung:
Elpie:
This is the same "excuse" people use when they take mobility car parks "for a minute or two". People that don't use wheelchairs or that don't have a spouse/partner/child using a chair have no idea how many barriers are put up by those "minutes or two". They can't be expected to understand either but it would be great if people (generally, that is - not pointing fingers at anyone) were more aware.


I saw a variation on the usual theme this afternoon at the local supermarket. A woman parked in one of the mobility parks with the appropriate permits etc on dashboard but she was waiting for her able bodied companion to finish the shopping.


How do you know that the person who got out wasn't the one who actually qualified for the card (or qualified as well)?

There's plenty of disablities that qualify for a card where people are not confined to a wheelchair - The recognised symbol for mobility carparks has a wheelchair, but you don't need a wheelchair to qualify.


My MiL has one in the UK and she is not wheelchair bound. She shares it out amongst local family who may need to borrow it for the odd day when she isn't using it!!


I have the odd person ask if they can borrow my mobility card, I decline but always offer to give them my disability


My MiL's disability (aside from her age!) is two replacement hips...! So I probably will end up with hers one day. My replacement heart valve does not count!


If you find you cant walk distances like 100meters or less then you may well qualify. It is probably better to work the heart though as long as there no underlying conditions causing Mitral Valve issues

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  #1166903 2-Nov-2014 14:41
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Geektastic: ... My MiL has one in the UK and she is not wheelchair bound. She shares it out amongst local family who may need to borrow it for the odd day when she isn't using it!!


If you get caught doing this in NZ, the mobility card is cancelled and confiscated.  undecided




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  #1166909 2-Nov-2014 15:22
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It's a footpath, not a car park.

There is no way a wheelchair or mobility scooter can get around that car's possition on the footpath.

You could use the money you saved from being towed for the mower ;o)~

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