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  # 1190227 7-Dec-2014 21:05
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lokhor: I went to Armstrong Peugeot in Lower Hutt to get my Peugeot serviced and received terrible service, they tried to tell me that my head gasket was blown and would cost $4500 to fix without even performing a compression test on the engine.


Hmmmm Peugeot.




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  # 1190298 8-Dec-2014 05:59
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Re: crusher, In saying that I saw my first car a 1992 Toyota Carib anniversary edition two weeks ago no visible rust and no doubt more than 200,000K's. It sounded and looked reasonable considering its almost a handful of years older than my Nissan.

The motoring world would be rather bland if all cars were through the crusher by now. Just my observation the Toyota is better designed for longevity.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1190305 8-Dec-2014 07:32
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kiwirock: Re: crusher, In saying that I saw my first car a 1992 Toyota Carib anniversary edition two weeks ago no visible rust and no doubt more than 200,000K's. It sounded and looked reasonable considering its almost a handful of years older than my Nissan.



The motoring world would be rather bland if all cars were through the crusher by now. Just my observation the Toyota is better designed for longevity.



I still see many old Nissans (Datsuns) , Subaru's, the odd old Mitsubishi. There is a Datsun 120Y in my street. They may still be going due to their very good Japanese Engines but they are death traps and should be in collections or used occasionally by enthusiasts and not for daily driving.




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  # 1190579 8-Dec-2014 13:22
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KiwiNZ:
kiwirock: Re: crusher, In saying that I saw my first car a 1992 Toyota Carib anniversary edition two weeks ago no visible rust and no doubt more than 200,000K's. It sounded and looked reasonable considering its almost a handful of years older than my Nissan.



The motoring world would be rather bland if all cars were through the crusher by now. Just my observation the Toyota is better designed for longevity.



I still see many old Nissans (Datsuns) , Subaru's, the odd old Mitsubishi. There is a Datsun 120Y in my street. They may still be going due to their very good Japanese Engines but they are death traps and should be in collections or used occasionally by enthusiasts and not for daily driving.


I know i have said it before in another thread. But if we are going to be worrying about deathtrap vehicles, They should stop selling brand new ones before worrying about old ones.
http://rightcar.govt.nz/vehicle-detail.html?q=32770&bc=1|28||&Make=Mitsubishi&Model=MITSUBISHI-L300&years=2013-
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http://www.mmnz.co.nz/l300/
The reason they are so bad - The base chassis in them was first released in 1986. So almost any early 1990s car will be safer than a brand new L300. Due to the engine being in front of you. Unlike in the L300 where you are sitting on top of the engine. Which means in a head on crash you are almost certan to loose your legs due to them being crushed between the engine and whatever you crashed into.

Sorry to sidetrack the thread but it is something I feel very strongly about. Due to lots of employers out there who put their staff into deathtrap vans. Yet the boss drives drives something with a good crash safety rating.

And a +1 to Nissan for not selling the Urvan anymore. (It was the same unsafe cab over design as the L300) Nissan should start selling their US market vans here. They would sell really well as there are lots of people who don't trust European Vehicles due to electrical problems.





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  # 1191590 8-Dec-2014 14:07
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I still see many old Nissans (Datsuns) , Subaru's, the odd old Mitsubishi. There is a Datsun 120Y in my street. They may still be going due to their very good Japanese Engines but they are death traps and should be in collections or used occasionally by enthusiasts and not for daily driving.


My first car was a 73 Datsun 1200 Coupe (Im an idiot for selling it), all original with no rust in it at all when I had it (mid 90's) except for surface rust down on side where the previous owners girlfriend had scraped it along a fence ;)

There'd be no way I'd let rust get into it if I still had it.....





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  # 1191734 8-Dec-2014 17:52
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KiwiNZ:

You are talking about vehicles pushing two decades they should have been recycled through crushers by then.


Funny thing is that it looks like older Nissans were built to last but the new ones are not.
Navara was 6 years old with under 100K on the clock when first paint chips came off with rust on top of the windscreen and rust kept on spreading to whole roof.
AUS/UK owner got it sorted out as Nissan admitted paintjob was done incorrectly at factory in Spain.

My 25 years old Safari is running like a clock and has insanely thick paint coat compared to modern cars.
I could still consider a Nissan but only the models built in Japan which seem to be bit better quality.

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Bloke at work has a '94 Nissan Skyline R33 with 350000 Km on the clock. Still in reasonable nick and goes fine, has never had anything major done to it.

I would imagine the modern ones to have significantly lower build quality unless as above, you manage to get an ex-Japan model.




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