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  Reply # 1198160 15-Dec-2014 22:58
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gnfb: Physical media is and should be dead. There is little reason to have a physical media anything anymore. Also I imagine that the plastic used for dvds is something to do with petroleum ? (clever person comment here please). We don't have to truck boxes of DVDs anymore , you don't have to waste petrol and time going to the video store. However I imagine as always there will be the ones that tell you the timber on a vinyl record can not be produced on Cds, that nothing beats a bluray yadayada.

Pirate bay dropping out made little difference to the .... transfer industry ;) and of course the bonus was the unfortunate availability of all the unreleased sony films...... apparently I read somewhere.

no our kids kids will be saying "ok grandad tell me again , this is to funny for words.. Every house would have hard copies on plastic of movies?' Like millions of copies of the same thing?"



Except you are giving all the control back to the media companies, if you don't own the physical media. eg You may want to watch a certain movie, and you like watching it again and again. eg Back to the Future I have seen many times. You could buy the DVD set for under $10, where you get to keep it forever, or you could hire it each time, and play $5-7 each time you watch it, and you are at the mercy of whatever the media company charges you for it. Prices will likely rise overtime as the uptake grows.

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  Reply # 1198161 15-Dec-2014 23:00
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I still want to own physical DVDs or Blurays. I don't wish to have to stream a movie everytime I wish to view it.

What if my internet connection isn't working? Last weekend, Vodafone (who we're currently with) was down for several hours. It's not like the internet or any other technology will ever have 100% uptime.




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  Reply # 1198182 16-Dec-2014 00:22
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DarthKermit: I still want to own physical DVDs or Blurays. I don't wish to have to stream a movie everytime I wish to view it.

What if my internet connection isn't working? Last weekend, Vodafone (who we're currently with) was down for several hours. It's not like the internet or any other technology will ever have 100% uptime.

Bit of a false dilemma. Streaming is not the only alternative to physical discs
If my internet is down I have loads of downloaded moves and tv shows I can watch. I need neither streaming nor discs

What's more my downloaded versions are superior to bluray because they start immediately without having to sit through minutes of intros, copyright warnings, and menus
They also can be viewed on any screenin my house, accessed remotely, or even take my whole collection on holiday if I want, and my hard drive takes up a fraction of the space that discs would.
They also need much less looking after because they will never get scratched and don't need returning to their case.

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  Reply # 1198216 16-Dec-2014 07:51
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NonprayingMantis: Bit of a false dilemma. Streaming is not the only alternative to physical discs
If my internet is down I have loads of downloaded moves and tv shows I can watch. I need neither streaming nor discs

What's more my downloaded versions are superior to bluray because they start immediately without having to sit through minutes of intros, copyright warnings, and menus
They also can be viewed on any screenin my house, accessed remotely, or even take my whole collection on holiday if I want, and my hard drive takes up a fraction of the space that discs would.
They also need much less looking after because they will never get scratched and don't need returning to their case.


You obviously have a lot more technology setup at your house than we do. That's cool. I'd like a better set up here, but money doesn't allow for that presently.

I think that it's good to have different choices: physical media, downloads, streaming. One solution doesn't suit everyone. smile




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  Reply # 1198228 16-Dec-2014 08:09
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parosser: Hi,

I still enjoying going to the video store, my children enjoy looking at the children's weeklies....but our favourite Ponsonby Video Ezy store has been closed for a few weeks. A sign up on the door said closed for stock taking - but I suspect this isn't the case.

Does anyone know why the Ponsonby Video Ezy store closed?

Thanks.


Apparently the business has been sold, not closed down however might be opening under a different name.
A freiend of mine who worked there for 5 years was told a few weeks ago that they would no longer be required at the new store.
They have or are about to relocate to a different shop, the old shop is going to be redeveloped into apartments I believe.
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  Reply # 1198247 16-Dec-2014 08:52
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SATTV:
parosser: Hi,

I still enjoying going to the video store, my children enjoy looking at the children's weeklies....but our favourite Ponsonby Video Ezy store has been closed for a few weeks. A sign up on the door said closed for stock taking - but I suspect this isn't the case.

Does anyone know why the Ponsonby Video Ezy store closed?

Thanks.


Apparently the business has been sold, not closed down however might be opening under a different name.
A freiend of mine who worked there for 5 years was told a few weeks ago that they would no longer be required at the new store.
They have or are about to relocate to a different shop, the old shop is going to be redeveloped into apartments I believe.
John



Hi John,

Thanks for the update on VideoEzy. I stirred up quite a bit of discussion regarding physical v non physical media. I'm open to all avenues but I still enjoy perusing the video store on a rainy day with the kids. I hope it does re-open in some form.

Thanks.

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  Reply # 1198250 16-Dec-2014 08:56
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gnfb: Physical media is and should be dead. There is little reason to have a physical media anything anymore. Also I imagine that the plastic used for dvds is something to do with petroleum ? (clever person comment here please). We don't have to truck boxes of DVDs anymore , you don't have to waste petrol and time going to the video store. However I imagine as always there will be the ones that tell you the timber on a vinyl record can not be produced on Cds, that nothing beats a bluray yadayada.

Pirate bay dropping out made little difference to the .... transfer industry ;) and of course the bonus was the unfortunate availability of all the unreleased sony films...... apparently I read somewhere.

no our kids kids will be saying "ok grandad tell me again , this is to funny for words.. Every house would have hard copies on plastic of movies?' Like millions of copies of the same thing?"



Except you are giving all the control back to the media companies, if you don't own the physical media. eg You may want to watch a certain movie, and you like watching it again and again. eg Back to the Future I have seen many times. You could buy the DVD set for under $10, where you get to keep it forever, or you could hire it each time, and play $5-7 each time you watch it, and you are at the mercy of whatever the media company charges you for it. Prices will likely rise overtime as the uptake grows.


Correct and that also assumes that you can still watch it online.  It may have been removed from their catalog when you want to watch it next..   If I want to keep a movie I buy it on BD if possible.  A lot of movies I'v bought over the past few years aren't available for streaming and never will.  Not main stream content..




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  Reply # 1198257 16-Dec-2014 09:12
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DarthKermit: I still want to own physical DVDs or Blurays. I don't wish to have to stream a movie everytime I wish to view it.

What if my internet connection isn't working? Last weekend, Vodafone (who we're currently with) was down for several hours. It's not like the internet or any other technology will ever have 100% uptime.


I own 400+ DVDs/BluRays, but have now stopped buying. It's great to have a collection of disks to watch on demand, but the future is streaming, so no point to continue adding to the collection. My 1,000+ CDs are boxed under the house, replaced by streaming some time back.

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  Reply # 1198282 16-Dec-2014 09:28
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NonprayingMantis:
What's more my downloaded versions are superior to bluray because they start immediately without having to sit through minutes of intros, copyright warnings, and menus


They also can be viewed on any screenin my house, accessed remotely, or even take my whole collection on holiday if I want, and my hard drive takes up a fraction of the space that discs would.



They also need much less looking after because they will never get scratched and don't need returning to their case.



Well for starters isn't "superior" really a personal preference type of word?  I find my blu-rays are superior as I get higher bit rate videos, and I get much better audio.

I can watch blu-rays on any screen in my house, I can also stream to any screen in the house, both require some kind of equipment to do this

My blu-rays never get scratched, I take care of my things.  Also, have you never had a hard drive die?

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  Reply # 1198305 16-Dec-2014 09:57
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You can of course download and keep the media or download to your own section of "the cloud" so you will be able to watch over and over again.

Downloading in countries like NZ will go on for awhile I guess until the transfer of data speeds up. Storage is dirt cheap really I have what 10 tbs with an array of media that I can watch when I want to. 
Get ready for a future of no PC's just tablets and everything on demand, oh and we will all have some type of amazon Echo unit in our houses.

Unfortunately the world will still be in keeping with that famous quote in the 70's, I think it was. A futurist was asked what the world would be like in 2000 and he commented on large tvs etc.
When asked how people in third world countries would fare he said "Oh I wasn't talking about them"




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  Reply # 1198371 16-Dec-2014 11:53
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long live physical media !

it keeps movie watching or music listening special instead of turning it into another disposable commodity.

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  Reply # 1198565 16-Dec-2014 18:36
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Civic Video Grey Lynn closed in Feb this year.  Unlike a lot of places it was still relatively busy, also had a subway and ice cream parlor in-store which increased foot traffic.  But the landlord increased the rent so high they decided to close and the building has been empty ever since.


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  Reply # 1198622 16-Dec-2014 20:06
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old3eyes: I would still rather rent a blue-ray of the movies and get great video and HD audio  something you don't get on   streaming  and the like.   But if they all close  it will be dumbed down like the audio industry where MP3 is good enough..


No issues streaming Full HD content through the Roku, also get 5.1/7.1 sound (my system is only 5.1 :-( ). The Video quality is on par with the Blu-Ray discs I own. $10-$19 USD to purchase out right via Vudu or Mgo or $1-$6 USD to rent for 2 days or in some cases longer for new releases.

As for browsing my son enjoys doing this via thumbnails/trailers via the Roku and he can even see the ratings and decide from there. Other plus side is being able to view the stream on anything from the Roku to a PS Vita.

I can't be bothered with physical media anymore even though I have a rather large collection of DVDs/Blu-Rays. They tend to sit on the shelf these days.

Other plus side of the cloud is being able to play the movies anywhere as long as there is an internet connection :-)





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  Reply # 1198624 16-Dec-2014 20:13
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Oh and if the internet goes down I have copies locally on HDD, I also hate previews/copyright warnings/slow load Blu-Ray menus etc and just want to get the movie....

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SATTV:
parosser: Hi,

I still enjoying going to the video store, my children enjoy looking at the children's weeklies....but our favourite Ponsonby Video Ezy store has been closed for a few weeks. A sign up on the door said closed for stock taking - but I suspect this isn't the case.

Does anyone know why the Ponsonby Video Ezy store closed?

Thanks.


Apparently the business has been sold, not closed down however might be opening under a different name.
A freiend of mine who worked there for 5 years was told a few weeks ago that they would no longer be required at the new store.
They have or are about to relocate to a different shop, the old shop is going to be redeveloped into apartments I believe.
John




Afraid not. There was a deal going to be done between ezy and civic in Ponsonby, but as far as I am aware, that is no longer going ahead.  Without divulging too much detail, neither the Video Ezy or the Civic that were in Ponsonby are likely to re-open anytime soon.

Yes, DVD rental is dying fast in NZ. I was fortunate enough to be able to get out of my (absurdly expensive) mall lease and sold off my stock a few months ago. Its a fun industry to be in (unlimited movies and games anytime I felt like it) but ultimately, the stress of scraping enough $ together each week to pay the rent, the staff, the suppliers and the government made the meagre returns simply not worth it. I left 1 other operator in the local market, but even he agrees with us exiting, it probably bought him an extra 12-18 months of viability.

I will still take a blu-ray over streamed / downloaded content as first choice for a "movie experience" on the projector, but when it comes to more casual watching (tv shows etc) it is difficult to go past streaming services.

I remember watching some Jason Statham action flick on netflix one night on my projector, wife walks in and after seeing the quality (which she saw as very good) asked "why do we still own a video shop", less than 6 months after that question, we dont!

The DVD rental industry turned over approx $125mio in the year to Dec 2012, to Dec 2013 it was $85mio and I would be pretty certain that this year will see a similar percentage decline (friends with stores in various parts of the country have their sphincters puckered up tight waiting for school holidays).

Just remember that for most of the video shops around, its not some faceless corporate / movie mogul that owns it, its mostly mom and pop franchisees who work long and hard to try and make a living (not a fortune, just a living), support them while they are still around.......

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