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Topic # 160317 2-Jan-2015 13:15
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I went there, Yup.
In the middle of the riots.
Definitely was not premeditated, They happen every year.
What sparked them is the anal level of security. How every bag is checked, How the 4 camp grounds are separate and you cant go into the other ones.
Everywhere you try and go there is a line and you need to be patted down and any bags searched. Causing 45 minute long lines.
The group i was with were known as the "frog lickers" because they were high on everything looking for frogs at 4am with flash lights.
My mates merged with some mutual friends from the form below. They were stealing gazebos and camp chairs. Most of them couldnt handle the drink and were on the binge. They destroyed other sites for the heck of it and our site too.

Thats my tent on fire and my mate casually taking a selfie!
Just general picture

You can see the fence down that separates the sites.

Quad bike that was torched.

Same again

Tents torched next to the fence




 


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  Reply # 1207157 2-Jan-2015 14:06
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Clusteefvck from the start by the organisers allowing BYO. Big events should NEVER allow BYO, should always be regulated and controlled sale and supply. Clearly insufficient security and insufficient police presence. The anti social behaviour should not have been allowed to get to the point it did, the first troublemakers should have been stomped on hard, and spent new years in a cell. Mobs are stupid, but even they get the point after the first dozen or so guy's that push boundaries get jumped on by 6 big hairy men, handcuffed and dragged away screaming the cuffs are too tight and FTP.

Also your posts makes it sound as if you think that the behaviour of your mates was somehow acceptable? If they were involved in destroying other peoples camp sites and or property they should be locked up.




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  Reply # 1207163 2-Jan-2015 14:16
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Clearly the rioters are absolute morons and have no concept of proper human behavior. These losers ruin these events and cause them to never be repeated, then they bitch and whine that they have nothing to do.




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  Reply # 1207164 2-Jan-2015 14:26
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Having Been the 3 Previous years(2 years at BW and last one at RnV itself) and from what  I've seen from this years one none were as bad as this year.

You're always going to have queues of people when you get 7/8K people onto a camp site requiring bag inspections. This is nothing new and always happens. 
I don't see how high levels of security relate to people starting to knock fences down and start riots?  I'd hate to see what would happen if they had less security!
Yes there has always been 1 or 2 idiots burning their own tents on NYE but it was always quickly controled and the people involved kicked out.

Having stayed at RnV on site the last time I went, which is also BYO but is R20 as apposed to BW which is r18 it makes for a much more enjoyable experience. Everyone's alot more mature and can handle their booze alot better so you don't get the fights / crap caused by boozed up 18 year olds fresh out of high school on their first trip away from mum and dad so playing up for their mates. 

I'm sure BW will continue next year but I highly doubt they will be allowed to keep their BYO license as the people who went this year and think what happened is acceptable / 'funny' have ruined it for everyone else.
IMO they'd be better off making the entire festivle R20. Would solve alot of the issues.

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What sparked them was the behaviour of morons and the fools who allowed a BYO licence.

With that many drunks in one place, the security should have included water cannon and tear gas. And baton rounds.

I hope all the troublemakers are identified and charged and that the criminal record they get follows them for life.







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  Reply # 1207188 2-Jan-2015 15:25
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Lots of decent points here.
Would have been at least 75 security staff at BW and 15 police.
No way do i condemn it acceptable. I lost a pair of shoes, blow up mattress, clothes and bag and tent to some dudes that had beef with the other group with my mates.





 


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They do bag searches every year at BW and R&V.. no reason why that would cause this, otherwise it would have every other year also.

In fairness it's pretty bad every year on the last night in BW - common knowledge to pack up your stuff in the early evening before you head off. Awapuni never used to be closed off from Watson though? :S

Andib: I'm sure BW will continue next year but I highly doubt they will be allowed to keep their BYO license as the people who went this year and think what happened is acceptable / 'funny' have ruined it for everyone else.
IMO they'd be better off making the entire festivle R20. Would solve alot of the issues.


If BW doesn't come back then yeah. I can see the on-site camping expanded more and have the age limit stay at R20. I don't see an issue to it, but in saying that I did have my most memorable R&V moments being under 20 so :p




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  Reply # 1207212 2-Jan-2015 16:44
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Thinking perhaps you need some new mates?




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  Reply # 1207217 2-Jan-2015 17:01
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hairy1: Thinking perhaps you need some new mates?


Lol, first thought that crossed my mind also.


Not sure where politicians learn to count, but with regards to the drinking age:
18 is too young and 20 is too old.   Hmm, there's another number in the middle.

Given our culture of binge drinking, I can't fathom why we'd change the law to allow school students to buy alcohol in their final year, and to obviously distribute this to their younger mates also.



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  Reply # 1207223 2-Jan-2015 17:05
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Who can remember back to when you couldn't buy beer in supermarkets? Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing.




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  Reply # 1207244 2-Jan-2015 17:22
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A family member of mine has run multiple major music festivals for the last 10yrs, and there have never been significant problems such as this, which I put down to controlled sale of alcohol from licensed companies operating temporary bars (obviously meaning those who are drunk will not be served), as well as very well co-ordinated security personnel in large numbers who work in conjunction with the police to keep everyone safe and make sure the event is a good time not ruined by super drunk people going crazy.

I think banning the BYO alcohol in campgrounds at R&V and BW would be a good thing that would solve the problem, but it would be meet with a lot of outcry from people who love the events, so if that's not the right solution something does need to be done about it. It's the classic case of a good time being ruined by a few idiots.



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DarthKermit: Who can remember back to when you couldn't buy beer in supermarkets? Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing.


Most people get their drinks from the liqueur store. Wouldn't change much if it wasnt available in the supermarket. 

hairy1: Thinking perhaps you need some new mates?


My mates a good, Its the mates of my mates that are bad. (Year group below) They just dont get it....

 

I think banning the BYO alcohol in campgrounds at R&V and BW would be a good thing that would solve the problem, but it would be meet with a lot of outcry from people who love the events, so if that's not the right solution something does need to be done about it. It's the classic case of a good time being ruined by a few idiots.


I think if BYO was banned they wouldn't have hardly as many attenders. I cant not bring myself to pay $12 for Jager and redbull or $8 for a Heineken.

RnV should be R20 or R21 as its aimed to be a mature event.






 


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TimA:
DarthKermit: Who can remember back to when you couldn't buy beer in supermarkets? Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing.


Most people get their drinks from the liqueur store. Wouldn't change much if it wasnt available in the supermarket. 


Probably not. That's another issue: there are tonnes more booze stores than there used to be. NZ is awash with alcohol and incidents like this are the result of this.




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Just to note because it seems like a lot of people may be misinformed/not aware.

There are two different campsites and festivals as such in Gisborne. One of them is the actual R&V festival. There's camping onsite but this is R20. I've never had any issues camping here and it's pretty peaceful, no police intervention or riots.

Then there's BW which is on the beachfront about 20 minutes away. This is where Tim's pictures and the riot came from. This is R18 and known for being a complete mess come 5pm NYE.

Banning alcohol for the R&V event or even BYO for the on-site campers at R&V would be a colossal mistake given everyone is pretty well behaved and nobody gets in to trouble in these campsites. Blame BW :p




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On the topic of the DJ's.
I would love to get the mix P-Money played. Was amazing.





 


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