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  Reply # 1299829 7-May-2015 12:56
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Wheelbarrow01:  there will still be a bottleneck at peak times to get on or off it - it will really just shift the problem from Belfast to Cranford St.


I agree, and quite frankly I'm a bit gobsmacked they haven't taken the opportunity of the quakes to just ramrod some new motorway/expressways in.

4 Lane Marshland all the way up to to the existing motorway, change Hills/Briggs into a 4 lane expressway all the way from Fitzgerald/Bealy through to Marshlands/QE2, with interchanges at Warrington/Shirley and Briggs/Marshlands,so you have an eastern motorway feeding traffic from the north into the CBD and via 74 all the way around.

Extend the planned Northern Arterial planned for the east of Belfast all the way down through Cranford/Sherborne to Bealey Ave (as an expressway, Say interchanges at Innes and Warrington)

Maybe even make the 4 aves a proper ring road, only allow the major roads to connect to it, minimize the number of non major intersections.  Like along Moorhouse get rid of Selwyn St, Waller Terrace, Stewart St, St David St and possibly even Antigua St. Ideally you'd do it on both side of the road but with the location of the railway lines it would make access to some places pretty problematic.

You get the idea. Just bulldoze bulldoze bulldoze and build big roads. There is never going to be a better chance to get motorway access into the heart of Christchurch than during the rebuild I reckon.






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  Reply # 1299837 7-May-2015 13:13
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It's been proven time and time again that creating more roads/lanes induces more traffic

Back to the OP, this tool helps in making the tradeoff of living costs and commuting costs
http://affordability.org.nz/canterbury.html

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1299847 7-May-2015 13:39
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There should be commuter rail to north Canterbury. If you just keep building more roads without investing in public transport the place will end up with a traffic death spiral like Auckland.

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Rangiora seems to be turning into a good place to live, good selection of stores, cafes, bakeries & the like. Aquatic centre, cinemas, etc. It’s a great place for quality of life, lots of kayaking, running & biking to be had in the area. The local beaches are swimmable and are a short drive away, good on a nice day – something which suburbs south of the City down have (not unless you like shingle beaches). Property prices aren’t bad in comparison to Chch. Lots of European expats around now days (German / Brits / Dutch).

The commute into Chch is nasty during peak hours, easy 45-55 minutes into Christchurch in the mornings. The evening commute is not as arduous. No plans for an additional Waimak bridge however as mentioned there are plans to reroute some arterial around Chch roads which will help in the future, however this isn’t going to make a difference any time soon. Commuter rail will take ages to pay for itself, buses are infrequent and underused.

Kaiapoi is becoming more popular because of its proximity in comparison to Rangiora (11km shorter), many new sub divisions are being built to cater for the Dual Income No Kids (DINKs) moving into the area. Reasonable selection of stores, cafes, aquatic centre, etc. but not as good as Rangiora.

Woodend? I can’t really think of anything to say, I drove through it once on the way to Pegasus, didn’t see much to write home about laughing

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alasta: There should be commuter rail to north Canterbury. If you just keep building more roads without investing in public transport the place will end up with a traffic death spiral like Auckland.


Well if they (actually it's "I" - as a Chch ratepayer - and probably "you" if you're a taxpayer) pay for this commuter rail link, and should the ticket prices be set to recover cost of investment - which would doom it to fail - or should we just suck it up and also pay to permanently subsidise the cost of getting to work and back for thousands of people who make a lifestyle decision to go and live out on the boondocks?
Rail always seems like a great idea - until someone sits down and works out the cost of setting up infrastructure to handle peak demand for about 2 hours a day, and to sit idle for the remaining 22 hours.  They've done that - and the result suggests it's not going to happen. With Auckland population density, there's more hope.  For Rangiora folks, petitioning Ecan for more comfortable buses is your best bet.


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The best thing to do is to go down to Christchurch for a few days or a week and drive around the various places you are considering and take a look. See if they tick the boxes, visit the local shopping areas and talk to the locals and shop staff to get a feel of the area. Check out the peak time traffic.



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  Reply # 1300668 8-May-2015 13:34
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Thank you all for your responses and ideas. Some very useful information. 
I intend on spending some time down there to check it all out. 

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