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#1300642 8-May-2015 12:54

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I'm not suggesting the shellfish fine was too high - I'm suggesting that all the other ones are way too low.

Exactly. Why is it that people who kill others on the roads lose their driving privileges for only a few years at most? (Often only a few months.) They should never be allowed behind the wheel again.

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#1300649 8-May-2015 12:59

Rikkitic:
Geektastic:
I'm not suggesting the shellfish fine was too high - I'm suggesting that all the other ones are way too low.

Exactly. Why is it that people who kill others on the roads lose their driving privileges for only a few years at most? (Often only a few months.) They should never be allowed behind the wheel again.

Well, because sometimes people learn their lesson and don't do it again. But I take your point - recidivist offenders should have their cars crushed, and anyone who lends them a vehicle should be fined.

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#1300650 8-May-2015 13:02

We need to extend the 3 strikes sentencing to include drunk driving, speeding etc.

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#1300654 8-May-2015 13:08

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Dratsab: Would this not happen in the UK?

We buy food in shops there - we largely gave up living off the land as we moved into the 20th century.....

Do you not remember the Cod War?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars

Think of the offender as Iceland....

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#1300676 8-May-2015 13:43

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DarthKermit: The moral of the story? She shoulda been caught with a cheap, crappy car. Like the one my neighbour is trying to sell for $1200.

The sad fact is that she will probably buy another Audi and will continue poaching in the cheap, crappy $1200 second car which she will also get.

I have no problem with people being stripped of assets used in the committing of a crime (in this case cars, boats, dive gear, etc.) and would love to see it be part of our justice system for other crimes as well. For example, while not a fan of "boy racers" it seems crazy that the government can seize and crush their vehicles while the punishment for drink drivers seems to be that you cancel the driver licence - a completely ineffectual measure given the number of times I read about someone caught speeding or driving drunk on a suspended/disqualified licence. In my knee-jerk reactionary opinion, driving a one-and-a-half-tonne vehicle while drunk is like walking around holding a loaded gun - it's only a matter of time before someone loses control and someone (else) gets hurt or killed.

She can go to prison with a second offense I believe. Such a deliberate circumvention of the rules would certainly see her receive the highest penalties available.

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#1300682 8-May-2015 13:48

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Yep.

Our future as a species is linked to the Cockle and all other Sea life.

Judging by your sarcasm i guess you don't care about over-fishing and species loss.

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#1300692 8-May-2015 14:00

surfisup1000:
MikeB4:
Yep.

Our future as a species is linked to the Cockle and all other Sea life.

Judging by your sarcasm i guess you don't care about over-fishing and species loss.

I didn't' see that as sarcastic, given it's fact and Mike is a smart guy, I'd suggest he was re-enforcing it as fact.

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#1300893 8-May-2015 17:48

networkn:
surfisup1000:
MikeB4:
Yep.

Our future as a species is linked to the Cockle and all other Sea life.

Judging by your sarcasm i guess you don't care about over-fishing and species loss.

I didn't' see that as sarcastic, given it's fact and Mike is a smart guy, I'd suggest he was re-enforcing it as fact.

He was saying the future of human existence is reliant on cockles.

That to me , is being sarcastic.

Although, let him say if he was intending sarcasm.

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#1300920 8-May-2015 18:47

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MikeB4:
Yep.

Our future as a species is linked to the Cockle and all other Sea life.

Judging by your sarcasm i guess you don't care about over-fishing and species loss.

woah you have completely misunderstood what I was saying. I am saying that the Oceans and their sea life are the base of the food chain and that is linked absolutely to our future
If we lose the sea life we will be in real trouble and probably extinction candidates. I am very much concerned about over exploitation.

Some may say Oh its just Cockles, I do not see them as just Cockles they are very important like all sea life to our presence on this planet.

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#1300969 8-May-2015 20:44

MikeB4:
surfisup1000:
MikeB4:
Yep.

Our future as a species is linked to the Cockle and all other Sea life.

Judging by your sarcasm i guess you don't care about over-fishing and species loss.

woah you have completely misunderstood what I was saying. I am saying that the Oceans and their sea life are the base of the food chain and that is linked absolutely to our future
If we lose the sea life we will be in real trouble and probably extinction candidates. I am very much concerned about over exploitation.

Some may say Oh its just Cockles, I do not see them as just Cockles they are very important like all sea life to our presence on this planet.

He he, I misunderstood :) Sorry.

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#1300972 8-May-2015 20:52

surfisup1000:
MikeB4:
surfisup1000:
MikeB4:
Yep.

Our future as a species is linked to the Cockle and all other Sea life.

Judging by your sarcasm i guess you don't care about over-fishing and species loss.

woah you have completely misunderstood what I was saying. I am saying that the Oceans and their sea life are the base of the food chain and that is linked absolutely to our future
If we lose the sea life we will be in real trouble and probably extinction candidates. I am very much concerned about over exploitation.

Some may say Oh its just Cockles, I do not see them as just Cockles they are very important like all sea life to our presence on this planet.

He he, I misunderstood :) Sorry.

No probs on reflection I can see how my post could misread.

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#1301019 8-May-2015 22:41

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Geektastic:
Dratsab: Would this not happen in the UK?

We buy food in shops there - we largely gave up living off the land as we moved into the 20th century.....

Do you not remember the Cod War?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars

Think of the offender as Iceland....

Not that well. I was in grey flannel shorts at boarding school when the 70's part of it took place, and my parents had not met in the 50's!

Commercial fishing though - not really the same as collecting shell fish in your Audi at the beach. Although based on the recent illegal fishing in Antarctica that was allowed to slide by, perhaps we just concern ourselves with the low hanging fruit....

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#1301034 9-May-2015 00:26

Could a fisheries officer confiscate a half billion dollar super yacht ,if it was caught with to many paua onboard. That be a good haul.

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#1301040 9-May-2015 06:13

cruxis: Could a fisheries officer confiscate a half billion dollar super yacht ,if it was caught with to many paua onboard. That be a good haul.

I guess as long as the officer doesn't go over his super yacht quota catching it.

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#1301049 9-May-2015 08:14

cruxis: Could a fisheries officer confiscate a half billion dollar super yacht ,if it was caught with to many paua onboard. That be a good haul.

We have confiscated large fishing vessels. There two birthed at Mirimar for a long time before they disposed of. So yes if the super yacht was involved in illegal fishing it can be confiscated.

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