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  Reply # 1305476 14-May-2015 21:27
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Think before you commute tomorrow - NZTA advice here.



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  Reply # 1305487 14-May-2015 21:30
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It's always a compromise between building structures that are so strong that no natural events like flooding or earthquakes are likely to damage them vs. keeping the cost to a reasonable level.

For example, every culvert could be built to be (say) 2 metres in diameter, but the cost would be huge.




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  Reply # 1305488 14-May-2015 21:31
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JWR:
MikeB4: My wife had to go into the city to pick up passports, she took the SUV and needed it, she said there was a torrent running across the Motorway at Horokiwi. The Hutt River is very high. We have flooding at home for the first time ever. I may need
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That looks like really bad drainage. The seaside has very little water.

Stay safe Wellington.


Yeah, about that...
The water isn't coming from the sea side though.
It's coming from the big hills on the left... along with mud, rocks, tree branches.... things that fill drains.
And roads have camber, so they drain to the left.
Probably good in an emergency too so they can contraflow in major emergencies.

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  Reply # 1305502 14-May-2015 22:05
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timmmay: Think before you commute tomorrow - NZTA advice here.


SWMBO is in an hotel in Wellington as she could not get over the hill tonight. At present she is entertaining a notion that I will be heading over in the car to collect her in the morning - something we have a difference of opinion on at the moment!!





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  Reply # 1305506 14-May-2015 22:10
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MikeB4:
Geektastic:
JWR:
MikeB4: My wife had to go into the city to pick up passports, she took the SUV and needed it, she said there was a torrent running across the Motorway at Horokiwi. The Hutt River is very high. We have flooding at home for the first time ever. I may need
different tyres on my wheelchair



That looks like really bad drainage. The seaside has very little water.

Stay safe Wellington.


Surely you didn't think we paid rates and taxes for competent civil engineering?!


Adverse weather bombs like today throw the engineering text books out of the window. This would occur anywhere in the world.


And yet so many other places seem to manage to do better. All this says to me is that if The Big One ever hits Wellington, we are truly stuffed.

This did not really seem to be hyped, either. Not so long ago, some typhoon was headed our way and was on the news every 3 minutes. It did nothing much. This turns up more or less unheralded and causes complete chaos.





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I have a nagging memory of a similar roads flooding event in Wellington a few years ago when the response from the contractor that was supposed to clear stormwater drains was delayed because all the equipment was in some place like Palmerston North.

Are the drains silting up because they can't be deliberately flushed into the harbour? I don't recall seeing our local drain sumps being cleared as often as they used to be.



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People can do their bit in their own neighbourhoods by regularly clearing leaves off of storm water drain covers. I've had to clear the one outside our house in the road almost daily recently.




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  Reply # 1305565 15-May-2015 07:58
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And yet so many other places seem to manage to do better. All this says to me is that if The Big One ever hits Wellington, we are truly stuffed.

This did not really seem to be hyped, either. Not so long ago, some typhoon was headed our way and was on the news every 3 minutes. It did nothing much. This turns up more or less unheralded and causes complete chaos.


interesting, yet we see reports of this type incident on a regular basis from Europe and the UK wink




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DarthKermit: People can do their bit in their own neighbourhoods by regularly clearing leaves off of storm water drain covers. I've had to clear the one outside our house in the road almost daily recently.


That's not doing your bit. That is doing something you have already paid someone else to do.





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MikeB4:
Geektastic:
And yet so many other places seem to manage to do better. All this says to me is that if The Big One ever hits Wellington, we are truly stuffed.

This did not really seem to be hyped, either. Not so long ago, some typhoon was headed our way and was on the news every 3 minutes. It did nothing much. This turns up more or less unheralded and causes complete chaos.


interesting, yet we see reports of this type incident on a regular basis from Europe and the UK wink


From time to time, usually resulting from weather that was advised about. This weather seemed to simply arrive unannounced (at least compared to the more or less non-event Typhoon I mentioned) and yet we grind to a halt. Sweden does not, for example, generally cease to function when they get some snow.

For a civil engineering infrastructure to be this overwhelmed points to defects in design or maintenance or both. No doubt they've been trying to run it on the equivalent of a gold coin donation for 20 years or something.

Possibly some whacky RMA nonsense that says that they can't put water into the harbour even in a dire emergency or something as well.

I'm still trying to work out how to get the missus back from Wellington.





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  Reply # 1305578 15-May-2015 08:42
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Can you believe that as at 0841 the NZTA is still running yesterday's advise on their website with no update until 9am? That seems a bit slack in the modern information age.





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Geektastic: Can you believe that as at 0841 the NZTA is still running yesterday's advise on their website with no update until 9am? That seems a bit slack in the modern information age.


Well the public servants who do this have been advised to stay home..




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Geektastic: Can you believe that as at 0841 the NZTA is still running yesterday's advise on their website with no update until 9am? That seems a bit slack in the modern information age.


That is due to the fact that all roads were open as per their last update




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Geektastic:
MikeB4:
Geektastic:
And yet so many other places seem to manage to do better. All this says to me is that if The Big One ever hits Wellington, we are truly stuffed.

This did not really seem to be hyped, either. Not so long ago, some typhoon was headed our way and was on the news every 3 minutes. It did nothing much. This turns up more or less unheralded and causes complete chaos.


interesting, yet we see reports of this type incident on a regular basis from Europe and the UK wink


From time to time, usually resulting from weather that was advised about. This weather seemed to simply arrive unannounced (at least compared to the more or less non-event Typhoon I mentioned) and yet we grind to a halt. Sweden does not, for example, generally cease to function when they get some snow.

For a civil engineering infrastructure to be this overwhelmed points to defects in design or maintenance or both. No doubt they've been trying to run it on the equivalent of a gold coin donation for 20 years or something.

Possibly some whacky RMA nonsense that says that they can't put water into the harbour even in a dire emergency or something as well.

I'm still trying to work out how to get the missus back from Wellington.


The warnings etc were on the Metservice site for several days and highlighted on weather reports on Media, but hey we are just mere colonials in straw hats




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  Reply # 1305615 15-May-2015 09:46
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Geektastic:
I'm still trying to work out how to get the missus back from Wellington.


All the roads from the Wairarapa are open driving will be easy




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