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  #1313426 28-May-2015 12:44
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There also might be USA doesn't want Russia to be host of games.

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  #1313595 28-May-2015 15:57
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joker97:
tdgeek: How many important games results are now artificial?


every game. i wonder how penalty kick decisions are made (or refused) ...


Really ? lol

 
 
 
 


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  #1313601 28-May-2015 16:13
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I would worry more about cricket in this respect to be honest. but "penalty" decisions drive me mad




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  #1313669 28-May-2015 19:32
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Bakshish is a funny one.

I remember a company I worked for (listed plc with 5000 employees) reputedly wired two million UK pounds to a couple of staff members who were sent to some S American banana republic to scope out a massive project that they wanted to bid for, the two mill being for wheel greasing locally. The two staff members never returned and no extradition treaty..!

The UK made it a criminal offence for UK companies to use wheel greasing to get contracts which always struck me as likely to be cutting off your nose to spite your face - there are some places where big contracts can be had in return for a few brown envelopes and it is seen as normal. Even in France, I know people who have "accidentally" left money on the Mayor's desk when seeking things like planning consent.

At the end of the day, even corporate hospitality is a form of bribery really.





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  #1313806 29-May-2015 07:48
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Pinocchio, Snow White, and Superman are out for a stroll in town one day.
As they walk, they come across a sign: "Beauty contest to find the most beautiful woman in the world.." "I am entering" said Snow White. After half an hour she comes out and they ask her, "Well, how'd ya do?" " First Place ," said Snow White.
They continue walking and they see a sign: "Contest to find the strongest man in the world.." "I'm entering," says Superman. After half an hour he returns and they ask him, "How did you make out?"" First Place ," answers Superman. "Did you ever doubt it?"
They continue walking when they see a sign: "Contest! Who is the greatest liar in the world?" Pinocchio enters. After half an hour he returns with tears in his eyes... "What happened?" they asked.
"Who the **** is Sepp Blatter?" asked Pinocchio.




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  #1313889 29-May-2015 10:24
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floydbloke: Pinocchio, Snow White, and Superman are out for a stroll in town one day.
As they walk, they come across a sign: "Beauty contest to find the most beautiful woman in the world.." "I am entering" said Snow White. After half an hour she comes out and they ask her, "Well, how'd ya do?" " First Place ," said Snow White.
They continue walking and they see a sign: "Contest to find the strongest man in the world.." "I'm entering," says Superman. After half an hour he returns and they ask him, "How did you make out?"" First Place ," answers Superman. "Did you ever doubt it?"
They continue walking when they see a sign: "Contest! Who is the greatest liar in the world?" Pinocchio enters. After half an hour he returns with tears in his eyes... "What happened?" they asked.
"Who the **** is Sepp Blatter?" asked Pinocchio.


I like it!





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  #1313971 29-May-2015 11:23
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Geektastic: Bakshish is a funny one.


I had a colleague who argued strongly for the benefits of baksheesh / corruption as was normal back in his native E Europe.
We were in contracting business in NSW, and there was a "certain level" of corruption, but the problem was that when a problem might appear which was going to cost you serious $$$, there was uncertainty about how you might get around it.  Example might be a union delegate, or state inspector of some kind who'd found reason to put a big spanner in your works, but a level of uncertainty about how to deal with this and a serious risk that if you misjudged the motive and offered some kind of incentive to make the problem go away, you might just have had the bad luck to dump yourself very deeply into a hole from which you'd never get out.  There were still too many honest folks about for his liking.
According to him it was much more straight-forward and efficient when everybody is corrupt, so you just factor the price for "paying the man" into normal business.


 
 
 
 


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  #1313980 29-May-2015 11:31
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Fred99:
Geektastic: Bakshish is a funny one.


I had a colleague who argued strongly for the benefits of baksheesh / corruption as was normal back in his native E Europe.
We were in contracting business in NSW, and there was a "certain level" of corruption, but the problem was that when a problem might appear which was going to cost you serious $$$, there was uncertainty about how you might get around it.  Example might be a union delegate, or state inspector of some kind who'd found reason to put a big spanner in your works, but a level of uncertainty about how to deal with this and a serious risk that if you misjudged the motive and offered some kind of incentive to make the problem go away, you might just have had the bad luck to dump yourself very deeply into a hole from which you'd never get out.  There were still too many honest folks about for his liking.
According to him it was much more straight-forward and efficient when everybody is corrupt, so you just factor the price for "paying the man" into normal business.



Much like tipping in the US. You just assume everything will cost 20% more than the pricetag.

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  #1314180 29-May-2015 15:19
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Not that I give a damn about soccer, but this reminds me of the corruption scandal with the IOC (Olympics) many years ago. A bunch of fat old men in suits again.

At the time, it was IOC head (from Spain I think). Someone said that if he knew about the corruption then he was corrupt himself. If he didn't know, then he was incompetent. Either way he should go.

I think the same way about the FIFA head.




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  #1314208 29-May-2015 15:56
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DarthKermit:... if he knew about the corruption then he was corrupt himself. If he didn't know, then he was incompetent. Either way he should go...


I second that motion wink




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  #1314585 30-May-2015 13:27
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Blatter now re-elected for a fifth term and several European unions talking about break-aways or WC boycotts.
Doesn't bode that well for Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 being 'proper' World Cup Championships.  Be nice if this whole jolly mess can get sorted out amicably and quickly but I'm not optimistic about it.




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  #1314589 30-May-2015 13:41
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yes, classic "How to get out of trouble".
slaughter the scapegoats




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  #1314594 30-May-2015 13:51
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joker97: yes, classic "How to get out of trouble".
slaughter the scapegoats


Setting up someone as the fall guy who is lower than yourself on the pecking order is how the world really works.




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  #1314604 30-May-2015 14:16
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From watching AlJazeera news today he got in via the African vote who have received $millions from FIFA..   Guess the corrupt voting for the corrupt..




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  #1314809 30-May-2015 19:29
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I'd surmise that, given the recent events, the election was probably as above board as the Zimbabwe presidential elections...





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