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# 176949 16-Jul-2015 23:01
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A nice attempt at speculative invoicing!





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  # 1345887 17-Jul-2015 07:35
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This scattergun approach of these "legal" firms that set themselves up just in the business of trying to extort money from alleged pirates is pretty much akin to the Ransomware guys encrypting your PC and demanding $$.  

Hmm, what to write...
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  # 1345930 17-Jul-2015 09:00
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Pretty sure If I got such a letter I would reply "GFYS"  obviously I would write that out in full, in quite large font.




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  # 1345938 17-Jul-2015 09:13
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As many commenters on the story said "Dear A Hole - prove it was me."





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  # 1345946 17-Jul-2015 09:24
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Good Ole Murica, willing to try anything.
Unless that was served personally it would make great recycling 

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  # 1346074 17-Jul-2015 10:49
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Geektastic: As many commenters on the story said "Dear A Hole - prove it was me."


Excellent suggestion, I think some sort of combination


Dear A Hole,
Prove it was me.

Yours Sincerely
Matthew

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GFYS

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  # 1346241 17-Jul-2015 13:39
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Telling them to GFYS might change it from scattergun to sniper.  They might then become a serious PITA - and if you did send that letter, then it might not be a good look if they front up with it in court.


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Fred99: Telling them to GFYS might change it from scattergun to sniper.  They might then become a serious PITA - and if you did send that letter, then it might not be a good look if they front up with it in court.



Just because the Americans think they own the world doesn't mean they do.

If you end up in court you defend yourself, protest your innocence, and ask them what they mean by default Wi-Fi password  You could also mention that that you want reimbursed the $7 in costs for having to hire the movie so you could research it before the case. (and how no amount of money could ever make up for the 2 hours you lost watching such garbage).






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  # 1346296 17-Jul-2015 15:17
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mdooher:
Fred99: Telling them to GFYS might change it from scattergun to sniper.  They might then become a serious PITA - and if you did send that letter, then it might not be a good look if they front up with it in court.



Just because the Americans think they own the world doesn't mean they do.

If you end up in court you defend yourself, protest your innocence, and ask them what they mean by default Wi-Fi password  You could also mention that that you want reimbursed the $7 in costs for having to hire the movie so you could research it before the case. (and how no amount of money could ever make up for the 2 hours you lost watching such garbage).




You really want to go through that?  That letter isn't "speculative invoicing" - the worst of it seems to be a demand that you must respond  - "or else". 
Almost certainly a lousy scam which begs placement in file 13, but any response to the scamsters is not a good idea IMO.

Oh - and America might not own the world, but as we see in NZ with IP law - present and proposed - exert a lot of influence and receive an incredible level of cooperation from our authorities.  

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  # 1346687 18-Jul-2015 12:55
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I would either not respond, or reply (via my lawyer) with an indignant letter - denying the allegation, asking for evidence, requesting that any proceedings be initiated in a local court, and requiring that all further correspondence on the issue be directed to my lawyer rather than me. Their whole model is based on issuing a speculative invoice with people rolling over and paying rather than agruing, and I doubt they would take it much further if given a hint that you might be perfectly prepared to fight it out.

I doubt you would hear from them again. Plus, requiring it to be done through a lawyer should protect you from any rotten tricks like them procedurally arranging things to get a default judgement against you because you didn't know that you had to turn up in the Ekatahuna district court at 6.15am to defend yourself.

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