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  # 1348451 21-Jul-2015 17:22
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And here I was thinking it was the number of togs I had to wear to keep warm ..

Undies, undies, undies... togs!

for those that remember ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW4qptCre8M
[Edit] I think I stuffed the embed - link above





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  # 1349479 21-Jul-2015 19:30
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Jase2985:
Geektastic:
Jase2985: what issue is that? there is no issues for those born in NZ

the issue is when people come from the UK and Europe, and are used to one thing and expect to see the same thing that they are used to here.


And vice versa.

Of course it makes sense to use standard units - otherwise we may as well start measuring distance in 'Pies' and temperature in "hats" or something. By your 'logic', as long as 4 million people understood what it meant it would be fine.


yep but we are in NZ and over here we have decided to use g/m2 for things like this, sorry. maybe if you were here when we were deciding on what to you you could have made a submission.

TOG is not and SI unit of measure so your bottom argument has no basis as a TOG is about as relevant as a g/m2 in the scheme of things.




Which, indirectly, speaks to my point.

There SHOULD be a standard measurement adopted worldwide, be it ISO, BS, ANSI, TOG, g/m2 or whatever.

It's inefficient and pointlessly confusing to use multiple non-standard methods and units of measurement. For anything, not just duvets.

As I said earlier, the greatest piece of this idiocy is without doubt having dozens of different numbers worldwide to get the Emergency Services.





 
 
 
 


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  # 1349484 21-Jul-2015 19:52
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well make it your crusade to convince the world standards organisation to adopt a single standard, instead of complaining about it in a thread on a small NZ forum :)

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  # 1349510 21-Jul-2015 20:32
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Maybe we should all have one currency one passport and one law and everyone is free to live anywhere




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


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  # 1349523 21-Jul-2015 21:06
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Geektastic:
Jase2985:
Geektastic:
Jase2985: what issue is that? there is no issues for those born in NZ

the issue is when people come from the UK and Europe, and are used to one thing and expect to see the same thing that they are used to here.


And vice versa.

Of course it makes sense to use standard units - otherwise we may as well start measuring distance in 'Pies' and temperature in "hats" or something. By your 'logic', as long as 4 million people understood what it meant it would be fine.


yep but we are in NZ and over here we have decided to use g/m2 for things like this, sorry. maybe if you were here when we were deciding on what to you you could have made a submission.

TOG is not and SI unit of measure so your bottom argument has no basis as a TOG is about as relevant as a g/m2 in the scheme of things.




Which, indirectly, speaks to my point.

There SHOULD be a standard measurement adopted worldwide, be it ISO, BS, ANSI, TOG, g/m2 or whatever.

It's inefficient and pointlessly confusing to use multiple non-standard methods and units of measurement. For anything, not just duvets.

As I said earlier, the greatest piece of this idiocy is without doubt having dozens of different numbers worldwide to get the Emergency Services.


What's worse, if you ring 911, by accident, instead of forwarding you to 111, you get a message (SLOWLY) telling you the emergency number for NZ is 111, 1     1    1, please hang up and call 1    1   1

I already died waiting for the end of the message :) 


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networkn:What's worse, if you ring 911, by accident, instead of forwarding you to 111, you get a message (SLOWLY) telling you the emergency number for NZ is 111, 1     1    1, please hang up and call 1    1   1

I already died waiting for the end of the message :) 


Indeed, why don't they just redirect it?

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  # 1349697 22-Jul-2015 10:03
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networkn:What's worse, if you ring 911, by accident, instead of forwarding you to 111, you get a message (SLOWLY) telling you the emergency number for NZ is 111, 1     1    1, please hang up and call 1    1   1

I already died waiting for the end of the message :) 


Indeed, why don't they just redirect it?


They want to "teach" us.  I wrote a very strong worded email to their management suggesting such stupidity could easily cost a life especially when a child calls emergency services for a incapacitated parent.

Yes yes I do teach my kids 111 is the emergency number, but 911 is mentioned in a lot of the TV they watch and one could easily excuse a child for dialling the wrong number under pressure. 

I digress. Apologies. 


 
 
 
 




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  # 1349715 22-Jul-2015 10:45
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The EU, in one of it's rare sensible moments, made a regulation that all states within the EU must program their phone systems so that if 112 is dialled, the call will route to the emergency services for the country the call is being made in regardless of whether the "correct" number was dialled.

With modern phone systems being largely computerised (I assume they are anyway - everything else is!) it should be possible to do the same thing for every emergency  number in the world! I think mobile phones are much more flexible and will dial the 'correct' number based on where they are in the world if you hit "Emergency Call".

I suppose we should be grateful things have moved on as far as they have - according to Wikipedia, the situation in Auckland used to be particularly fun...:

"Because numbers were different for every exchange, callers either had to dial the operator or look up the telephone number. An example of this was Auckland, New Zealand before the introduction of 111 in the 1960s – the city had 40 exchanges, all with different emergency numbers, and finding the telephone number for the local exchange would require having to search through the city's 500-page telephone directory."





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  # 1349726 22-Jul-2015 11:20
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One place we really need TOG values is in underlay and carpeting...Why, because if you use under floor heating it is important that the underlay doesn't block the heat from rising through the floor (depending on how deep the heating is and how fast you want the room temp to change)
When I got my last lot of underlay I tried asking for one with a low TOG value suitable for under floor heating; I'm sure you can guess what the response from the "experts" was.




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  # 1349774 22-Jul-2015 13:18
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I have removed a lot of posts about "natural selection"

The posts made no sense and were offensive. It's not unexpected for one little person who watched lots of TV shows to think 911 is a valid emergency number and I don't consider an unintended consequence of that to be natural selection or Darwin Awards worthy.

The comments were uncalled for and I removed them.

Keep your cool folks. You know the rules.





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Geektastic:
Jase2985:
Geektastic:
Jase2985: what issue is that? there is no issues for those born in NZ

the issue is when people come from the UK and Europe, and are used to one thing and expect to see the same thing that they are used to here.


And vice versa.

Of course it makes sense to use standard units - otherwise we may as well start measuring distance in 'Pies' and temperature in "hats" or something. By your 'logic', as long as 4 million people understood what it meant it would be fine.


yep but we are in NZ and over here we have decided to use g/m2 for things like this, sorry. maybe if you were here when we were deciding on what to you you could have made a submission.

TOG is not and SI unit of measure so your bottom argument has no basis as a TOG is about as relevant as a g/m2 in the scheme of things.




Which, indirectly, speaks to my point.

There SHOULD be a standard measurement adopted worldwide, be it ISO, BS, ANSI, TOG, g/m2 or whatever.

It's inefficient and pointlessly confusing to use multiple non-standard methods and units of measurement. For anything, not just duvets.

As I said earlier, the greatest piece of this idiocy is without doubt having dozens of different numbers worldwide to get the Emergency Services.



Shouldn't we just all speak one language then and program in one language and perhaps we should all drive on the left and RHD cars.


Who's going to volunteer to tell China they can't use chop sticks anymore because a fork is now the industry standard? 





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  # 1350241 23-Jul-2015 10:10
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BTR:
Geektastic:
Jase2985:
Geektastic:
Jase2985: what issue is that? there is no issues for those born in NZ

the issue is when people come from the UK and Europe, and are used to one thing and expect to see the same thing that they are used to here.


And vice versa.

Of course it makes sense to use standard units - otherwise we may as well start measuring distance in 'Pies' and temperature in "hats" or something. By your 'logic', as long as 4 million people understood what it meant it would be fine.


yep but we are in NZ and over here we have decided to use g/m2 for things like this, sorry. maybe if you were here when we were deciding on what to you you could have made a submission.

TOG is not and SI unit of measure so your bottom argument has no basis as a TOG is about as relevant as a g/m2 in the scheme of things.




Which, indirectly, speaks to my point.

There SHOULD be a standard measurement adopted worldwide, be it ISO, BS, ANSI, TOG, g/m2 or whatever.

It's inefficient and pointlessly confusing to use multiple non-standard methods and units of measurement. For anything, not just duvets.

As I said earlier, the greatest piece of this idiocy is without doubt having dozens of different numbers worldwide to get the Emergency Services.



Shouldn't we just all speak one language then and program in one language and perhaps we should all drive on the left and RHD cars.


Who's going to volunteer to tell China they can't use chop sticks anymore because a fork is now the industry standard? 




Eating utensils can cause confusion - for instance, in a UK recipe, a tablespoon is about twice as big as the same word means in a NZ recipe!





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Geektastic:
BTR:
Geektastic:
Jase2985:
Geektastic:
Jase2985: what issue is that? there is no issues for those born in NZ

the issue is when people come from the UK and Europe, and are used to one thing and expect to see the same thing that they are used to here.


And vice versa.

Of course it makes sense to use standard units - otherwise we may as well start measuring distance in 'Pies' and temperature in "hats" or something. By your 'logic', as long as 4 million people understood what it meant it would be fine.


yep but we are in NZ and over here we have decided to use g/m2 for things like this, sorry. maybe if you were here when we were deciding on what to you you could have made a submission.

TOG is not and SI unit of measure so your bottom argument has no basis as a TOG is about as relevant as a g/m2 in the scheme of things.




Which, indirectly, speaks to my point.

There SHOULD be a standard measurement adopted worldwide, be it ISO, BS, ANSI, TOG, g/m2 or whatever.

It's inefficient and pointlessly confusing to use multiple non-standard methods and units of measurement. For anything, not just duvets.

As I said earlier, the greatest piece of this idiocy is without doubt having dozens of different numbers worldwide to get the Emergency Services.



Shouldn't we just all speak one language then and program in one language and perhaps we should all drive on the left and RHD cars.


Who's going to volunteer to tell China they can't use chop sticks anymore because a fork is now the industry standard? 




Eating utensils can cause confusion - for instance, in a UK recipe, a tablespoon is about twice as big as the same word means in a NZ recipe!


I'd suggest eating utensils would also cause serious digestion issues! :) 


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  # 1350255 23-Jul-2015 10:36
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Geektastic:

Eating utensils can cause confusion - for instance, in a UK recipe, a tablespoon is about twice as big as the same word means in a NZ recipe!


in the UK they use gallons and in the US they also use gallons and they are a different measurement, oh no how will we ever cope.

a UK table spoon is 15ml, in NZ its 20ml, thats twice as big.

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  # 1350257 23-Jul-2015 10:37
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Jase2985:
Geektastic:

Eating utensils can cause confusion - for instance, in a UK recipe, a tablespoon is about twice as big as the same word means in a NZ recipe!


in the UK they use gallons and in the US they also use gallons and they are a different measurement, oh no how will we ever cope.

a UK table spoon is 15ml, in NZ its 20ml, thats twice as big.


Is there a need for sarcasm in this thread?


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