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Topic # 179052 24-Aug-2015 20:17
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" A beneficiary's decision to buy a $3,000 running machine advertised on late night TV has ended up in the High Court after Work and Income said "no" to paying for the exercise equipment "

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/beneficiary-s-3000-treadmill-gets-ministry-running-to-high-court-q07249.html?autoPlay=4440812724001

Here is the same lady on the TV show ' Neighbours at war '



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  Reply # 1373326 24-Aug-2015 20:25
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MSD are in a no win situation and will be dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. It will be interesting if the High Court upholds the Appeal Authorities decision what section of the SSA will be
Used to authorize the payment.




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Reply # 1373331 24-Aug-2015 20:34
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I don't think Winz should pay.  Benefits are for survival not wants.  Heck I would love  $3000 treadmill.  Would I expect Winz to pay for one ?. NO !!!!   If she wants exercise there is a huge treadmill available for her for free.  Its called OUTSIDE.   Have to get away from entitlement mind frame.




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  Reply # 1373336 24-Aug-2015 20:40
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is there something wrong with walking outside?

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  Reply # 1373337 24-Aug-2015 20:42
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Jase2985: is there something wrong with walking outside?


Yes, if you're fat enough it is much better and comfortable to run on treadmill rather than walking outside.

Edit: just read the article. It sounds like she has had fracture in the past. Walking on treadmill is much better as it is properly padded.





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  Reply # 1373338 24-Aug-2015 20:43
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It is hard to make a judgment here as the circumstances are not known. There maybe medical reason it is needed or other reasons. MSD cannot and will not make details known to the public.




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  Reply # 1373341 24-Aug-2015 20:47
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The cheek of some people!
My wife and I would love a 3 grand treadmill, but we have to pay money for taxes so people can be given this money to live.
Not buy bloody 3 grand treadmills! 

Self entitled cow. 

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  Reply # 1373342 24-Aug-2015 20:49
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the answer is no. if it is health related the DHB can pay for it, as a loan.

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  Reply # 1373343 24-Aug-2015 20:49
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tehgerbil: The cheek of some people!
My wife and I would love a 3 grand treadmill, but we have to pay money for taxes so people can be given this money to live.
Not buy bloody 3 grand treadmills! 

Self entitled cow. 


To make such a certain decision you must be aware of all the circumstances, can you enlighten the thread with this.




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MikeB4: It is hard to make a judgment here as the circumstances are not known. There maybe medical reason it is needed or other reasons. MSD cannot and will not make details known to the public.


Sorry but when you can buy high end treadmills for $1200 there's absolutely no need to spend 3 grand of taxpayers cash on one! 

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joker97: the answer is no. if it is health related the DHB can pay for it, as a loan.


Unfortunately it doesn't work like that.

How many DHB provides gym that you know of? Let me answer - None.





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  Reply # 1373347 24-Aug-2015 20:52
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joker97: the answer is no. if it is health related the DHB can pay for it, as a loan.


It often falls on MSD to pick up funding where the DHB's do not have authority to meet, so again without knowing the circumstances a definitive answer here is next to impossible.




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  Reply # 1373348 24-Aug-2015 20:53
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TBH people like this really are unemployable.

Just need to ask the question. Would you want her working for you or with you???? 

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  Reply # 1373350 24-Aug-2015 20:55
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tehgerbil:
MikeB4: It is hard to make a judgment here as the circumstances are not known. There maybe medical reason it is needed or other reasons. MSD cannot and will not make details known to the public.


Sorry but when you can buy high end treadmills for $1200 there's absolutely no need to spend 3 grand of taxpayers cash on one! 


Wrong, medical circumstances bring expenditure way in excess of $1200 or are you saying this should be some sort spending cap




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  Reply # 1373351 24-Aug-2015 20:58
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ok i am going to ask all the beneficiaries to buy a toyota corolla right now, and apply for funding.

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  Reply # 1373352 24-Aug-2015 20:59
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Imho it will be beneficial and probably reduce other costs for the system. It looks like the appeal authority told winz to pay for approximately half of it. This is not exactly the same as paying for all of it. So I think there is a lot of sensationalism in the headlines about this one.

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