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  Reply # 1375106 27-Aug-2015 10:56
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frankv:  I'm surprised they haven't used this space to show ads.




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  Reply # 1375112 27-Aug-2015 11:12
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Or C) turn your TV sideways


damm never thought of that , I will suggest it to my wife although her response would be unrepeatable smiletongue-out


You used to be able to get Mac screens that were designed like A4 pages and could be rotated on their stands.

Maybe you could adapt one..!


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  Reply # 1375143 27-Aug-2015 12:24
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Here's a tip for cell phone software developers.  When a video is taken in portrate mode automatcally record it in landscape!!..




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  Reply # 1375145 27-Aug-2015 12:36
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frankv: FWIW, I noticed the same kind of blurring at the top & bottom of some footage shot in landscape. :(

Someone has clearly told TVNZ that black space is inappropriate. I'm surprised they haven't used this space to show ads.




Or those ultra annoying things that slide on to block your view of something you DO want to watch simply to inform you that something you DON'T want to watch is going to be on....!!





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  Reply # 1375146 27-Aug-2015 12:37
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MikeB4:
Geektastic:
MikeB4:
SaltyNZ:
Or C) turn your TV sideways


damm never thought of that , I will suggest it to my wife although her response would be unrepeatable smiletongue-out


You used to be able to get Mac screens that were designed like A4 pages and could be rotated on their stands.

Maybe you could adapt one..!


I had forgotten about them, they were cool smile


They really were if you did a lot of publishing work etc.





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  Reply # 1375170 27-Aug-2015 12:57
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old3eyes: Here's a tip for cell phone software developers.  When a video is taken in portrate mode automatcally record it in landscape!!..


This.... I have always wondered why they could not default to always record landscape, just add a setting to follow phone orientation for devout portrait iphone users

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  Reply # 1375191 27-Aug-2015 13:36
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old3eyes: Here's a tip for cell phone software developers.  When a video is taken in portrate mode automatcally record it in landscape!!..


This.... I have always wondered why they could not default to always record landscape, just add a setting to follow phone orientation for devout portrait iphone users


I wonder what shape the CCD is? I'd guess square, and that either the top and bottom or sides is cropped to make the image landscape or portrait. So why not record *square* so it can be rendered in either landscape or portrait?


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  Reply # 1375225 27-Aug-2015 14:42
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dclegg: I think it's a non-technical user trait. My wife does it all the time. It's how they normally hold their phones when taking photos, and using it in general. But they give no consideration to how the content will look when it is viewed on a widescreen monitor or TV.


Which leads me to a question... When I take photos on my phone I have OneDrive set to automatically upload EVERYTHING to the online storage. This in turn syncs to my laptop and later on I will look at the latest photos and tag (not rename) with appropriate peoples' names and move to a folder structure Pictures \ Year \ Month (or event). This is replicated to our home server so everyone in our LAN have access to photos (and videos), and we can then see those in our media devices (HTPC, Amazon Fire TV, Chromecast). This obviously is now taking around 60 - 80 GB of storage but have images dating decades (and every year each individual file is larger than previous years, obviously)

I wonder how many people take photos on their phones and never create a copy, never sync to a service or device and never look at those photos again.  I wonder how many people taking photos on their tablets while on the street (ugh) or taking vertical videos (ugh) ever watch or look at those on a "normal" media device in the lounge.






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  Reply # 1375230 27-Aug-2015 14:50
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I wonder how many people take photos on their phones and never create a copy, never sync to a service or device and never look at those photos again.  


Related to that thought... When my first daughter (who is now 17) was a baby, my parents came to stay with us. Dad had just bought this new fangled device called a digital camera (a Kodak DC210, I believe). It was great! He could take a photo, and you saw a representation straight away on a LCD screen, so knew whether you wanted to keep the photo or reshoot it.

He took a bunch of photos of our daughter, which he promised to email to me "once I've touched them up".

Still waiting, Dad. Still waiting.

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  Reply # 1375231 27-Aug-2015 14:51
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"Touched them up" - dreadful words.

I know someone who takes lots of photos, then resizes then down (and cropping in the process, therefore losing the correct ratio). I always ask for "the originals please".





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freitasm: "Touched them up" - dreadful words.

I know someone who takes lots of photos, then resizes then down (and cropping in the process, therefore losing the correct ratio). I always ask for "the originals please".



Yeah, thats EXACTLY the sort of stuff he likes to do. I tried to tell him the originals were fine. It didn't work :-)

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  Reply # 1375237 27-Aug-2015 15:03
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What we REALLY need is to raise awareness. Education is the key



Lol, came here just to post this.

I'm actually ok with vertical video IF, and only if, the intended viewing medium is another phone.
If you're eventually going to display this on a computer or TV then it should be recorded vertically.

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It's everywhere though.  I had some classical guitar pieces recorded (audio recording, not video) in a studio back when I was semi good at this, and then the studio guy then went and 'mastered' them, which was code for f...

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  Reply # 1375251 27-Aug-2015 15:17
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freitasm: "Touched them up" - dreadful words.

I know someone who takes lots of photos, then resizes then down (and cropping in the process, therefore losing the correct ratio). I always ask for "the originals please".



Agree with the ratio comment.
Cropping and other post-processing is nothing new though, just wasn't widely available prior to the digital age to the snapshotters who simply took their films to the chemist for developing and printing.





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  Reply # 1375304 27-Aug-2015 16:59
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We all understand why a lot of video is available in inappropriate aspect ratios but the issue remains: why is it practice to apply blurred pseudo images to the sides.

The answer is actually quite simple.

The majority of people who watch TV do not like empty black bars at the side or top of their screens.

I know that almost everyone here will disagree with that and say that they prefer the black bars. I do too.

We are not the majority.

When broadcasters go out and ask people what they think they find that most people want to see 'picture' all over their TV screen.

The mentality is that the user has bought that great big screen and wants to see some kind of picture all over it.

There is also another more technical reason. Some transmission equipment senses the video aspect ratio and passes on aspect ratio information with the signal. If that happened when flipping back and forth between portrait video and 16:9 images in a news show, you would probably notice artefacts on screen as the transmission network and displays tried to keep up with changes in the reported aspect ratio of the signal.

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