Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




2335 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 372

Trusted

Topic # 182524 19-Oct-2015 16:27
Send private message

Got something from Expansys a week ago. Guess what was included ...

Click to see full size
Click to see full size

I thought this was against NZ Regulations. I know they are not a NZ Company but they are targeting NZ (due to their web address)
Even if it was legal to do, the adapter doesn't have a Earth Pin!


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
11505 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5211

Trusted

  Reply # 1409352 19-Oct-2015 16:39
Send private message

I have a lot of adapters and small appliance plugs with no earth pin




Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 It's our only home, lets clean it up then...

 

Take My Advice, Pull Down Your Pants And Slide On The Ice!

 

 


19282 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2600
Inactive user


  Reply # 1409355 19-Oct-2015 16:43
Send private message

Does not need an earth pin but the adapters are not allowed

 
 
 
 


11505 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5211

Trusted

  Reply # 1409359 19-Oct-2015 16:46
Send private message

johnr: Does not need an earth pin but the adapters are not allowed


its an interesting topic, what's the rules with parallel importers? and how would this get policed and enforced?




Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 It's our only home, lets clean it up then...

 

Take My Advice, Pull Down Your Pants And Slide On The Ice!

 

 


19282 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2600
Inactive user


  Reply # 1409361 19-Oct-2015 16:50
Send private message

Parallel importers like Expert info tech , ETC...... Have to provide a NZ plug and personally I would not accept anything but genuine from the handset manufacturer

Hmm, what to write...
962 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 479

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1409362 19-Oct-2015 16:51
Send private message

You are correct the appliance must have suitable plug...no adaptors allowed (except the type that permanently attach to the plug and therefore become part of it)

Of course if you import it is your problem




Matthew




2335 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 372

Trusted

  Reply # 1409365 19-Oct-2015 16:55
Send private message

MikeB4:
johnr: Does not need an earth pin but the adapters are not allowed


its an interesting topic, what's the rules with parallel importers? and how would this get policed and enforced?


The Product was not parallel imported. I asked the Manufacturer how I would buy their device in NZ and they said the resellers where expansys. (No one else sells the device in NZ)

A funny thing is..the device does not actually have a power plug! So it seems Expansys throws one of these in with anything ordered (Just in case). I presume they don't check 110V/240V status either! Whatever they do (As far as I know) you cannot supply one!

Also 2/3 Pins. If a device has a Earth Pin.. It needs one in case something goes wrong (or where does it earht) , Supplying a 3->2 Pin Adapter seems very dangerous. 2Pin->2Pin is ok as well as the device has been designed not to need one.




Hmm, what to write...
962 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 479

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1409368 19-Oct-2015 16:59
Send private message

LennonNZ:
MikeB4:
johnr: Does not need an earth pin but the adapters are not allowed


its an interesting topic, what's the rules with parallel importers? and how would this get policed and enforced?


The Product was not parallel imported. I asked the Manufacturer how I would buy their device in NZ and they said the resellers where expansys. (No one else sells the device in NZ)

A funny thing is..the device does not actually have a power plug! So it seems Expansys throws one of these in with anything ordered (Just in case). I presume they don't check 110V/240V status either! Whatever they do (As far as I know) you cannot supply one!

Also 2/3 Pins. If a device has a Earth Pin.. It needs one in case something goes wrong (or where does it earht) , Supplying a 3->2 Pin Adapter seems very dangerous. 2Pin->2Pin is ok as well as the device has been designed not to need one.





I almost guarantee that adaptor will be on the prohibited item list. Check with Energy Safety Service.

It can (and will) bypass the earth protection if an appliance is not double insulated




Matthew


490 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 104

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1409370 19-Oct-2015 17:01
Send private message

I have many of these from parallel importers but only use the adaptors I've bought locally, Kross etc

20554 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3954

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1409371 19-Oct-2015 17:03
Send private message

The only ones I know for sure are on the prohibited list are the ones with the folding pins that are live. While those arent AS/NZS compliant, I dont recall seeing them gazetted, but I havent looked too closely at that for a very very long time now.




Richard rich.ms

Minimalist
5409 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 379

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1409374 19-Oct-2015 17:07
Send private message

Interesting, was this for a product where the charging isn't via USB? (EDIT: I see your answer above now)

I just got an Xperia shipped to Australia from Expansys AU and this came with it:


Hmm, what to write...
962 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 479

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1409375 19-Oct-2015 17:08
Send private message

Just had a look, they have a couple on the list but not this one.. send it to them, I'm sure it will end up on the list

Anyway it is a  "high risk article" and needs to have a certification before it can legally be sold in NZ




Matthew


20554 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3954

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1409401 19-Oct-2015 17:47
Send private message

The grey ones dont fall apart and arent really a hazard if you are not an incompitant moron when plugging things into them.

The thing is on most of those universal adapters, once they have had a UK plug in them, the earth doesnt connect to a kiwi style plug ever again, but that is hardly an issue if you have one in NZ since you could just plug that straight into the wall.




Richard rich.ms

2080 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 621

Subscriber

  Reply # 1409418 19-Oct-2015 18:04
Send private message

The multi international adapters that work with a UK plug and NZ plug never feel that safe to use to me, the connection is almost always a bit loose.

1474 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 278

Subscriber

  Reply # 1409419 19-Oct-2015 18:18
Send private message

The quick answer is either ring them or email them and let them know that they have supplied the incorrect adaptor, and can the please send out the correct one, oh and by the way can they please send out the SDOC with it.

There was a similar issue over on the VF community, although it had the right pin configuration for NZ, it was so wide that it interfered with the outlet switch,  instead of VF supplying the SDOC (I suspect it never have one) they supplied another brand adaptor which didn't have this problem as more than likely had a SDOC

 1 | 2
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Less news in Facebook News Feed revamp
Posted 15-Jan-2018 13:15


Australian Government contract awarded to Datacom Connect
Posted 11-Jan-2018 08:37


Why New Zealand needs a chief technology officer
Posted 6-Jan-2018 13:59


Amazon release Silk Browser and Firefox for Fire TV
Posted 21-Dec-2017 13:42


New Chief Technology Officer role created
Posted 19-Dec-2017 22:18


All I want for Christmas is a new EV
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:54


How clever is this: AI will create 2.3 million jobs by 2020
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:52


NOW to deploy SD-WAN to regional councils
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:46


Mobile market competition issues ComCom should watch
Posted 18-Dec-2017 10:52


New Zealand government to create digital advisory group
Posted 16-Dec-2017 08:47


Australia datum changes means whole country moving 1.8 metres north-east
Posted 16-Dec-2017 08:39


UAV Traffic Management Trial launching today in New Zealand
Posted 12-Dec-2017 16:06


UFB connections pass 460,000
Posted 11-Dec-2017 11:26


The Warehouse Group to adopt IBM Cloud to support digital transformation
Posted 11-Dec-2017 11:22


Dimension Data peeks into digital business 2018
Posted 11-Dec-2017 10:55



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.