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  # 1413064 24-Oct-2015 00:04
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Jaxson: Without being rude, we watch Prime news at 5:30
It's half an hour, which is what the original 6pm news was on TV1 back in the day.
They don't muck around with 'Today's Good Sort' etc on there.

TV1 was originally half and hour, followed by Holmes, and then they rolled that into a full hour and then they put something newsy on at 7pm also. 
Still bugger all happens day to day in NZ, but they don't include additional international news to pad it out, so it's just awfully wishy washy.

I prefer TV3 over TV1. 
TV1 has that pretentious lot saying Fong ahh nui and O oma roo  etc, which is just disrespectful to people from those districts.


So true. To everyone else, it is wong ga nui and om a ru. To much political correctness on TVNZ, and I cringe each time they pronounce those place names.

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  # 1413065 24-Oct-2015 00:04
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This topic is very close to my heart, so this might be a bit long!  I ditched my TV years ago and would encourage anyone else to do the same.  I am infinitely happier and far more productive.

Regular news to me goes something like this:

- Murder here
- Murder there
- Vague new clue in missing person case at least two decades old
- Stupid political goings on
- New "study"
- Twisted over dramatised (or totally wrong) statistic(s) with skewed agenda or biased public interviews
- Happy story involving animals and/or children to lighten the mood after depressing you.

I occasionally listen to NewsTalk ZB just to make sure I'm still pronouncing Niva Retimanu's name correctly.

In general I've learned mainstream news regularly gloss over important facts and more regularly use bait audio clips and headlines to capture the attention for what ends up a nothing story.  The important stories are always given half the time of the nothing stories with practically no detail.

I've found myself avoiding any news what-so-ever recently.  I've been happier for it.  I no longer find myself subconsciously putting myself in the shoes of the family of some dead 20'ish year old that lost his life because he did something.  I got sick of being constantly reminded of my own mortality every day and listening to the mindless drivel of "experts" regarding international economic situations or political nonsense that they are wrong about.

I find myself plugging Spotify in on my ride in to work and on my way home.  I've blocked my access to the herald on my work computer to remove the temptation of mindless browsing for the sake of it.  I've been doing it for about a week now and even my girlfriend says I'm not as wound up as I have been in the past.

Every time I feel like browsing the news, I refer to a list of headlines  by the herald to remind myself as to why I don't subscribe to their crap anymore and open CounterStrike instead.

Actual headlines of actual articles (no joke)

- Slingshot botch up leaves business owners out of pocket (this one makes me twitch just thinking about people's short-sightedness)
- Scientists say cats don't love us (another "new study")
- UFO sighting has Wellington in a spin (it was a cloud)

And my personal favorites...

- Sitting down increases women's risk of cancer - study
- Now standing is bad for your health
- Sitting isn't bad for you after all

As these headlines surfaced on the internet, I deliberately posted them one after the other to try and show people how stupid it is.  One of my friends suggested it would just be safer if I lived my life at a 45 degree angle.





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  # 1413069 24-Oct-2015 02:08
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TV3 over TV1 but I don't watch either as I think that I can get more journalistic integrity and professionalism from The Crowd Goes Wild team.

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  # 1413090 24-Oct-2015 08:33
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I find both TV1 and TV3 lacking in international news. There almost seems to be a sense of relief in the presenters voices when they get to the sports news. Perhaps this is why more and more sport related items are appearing in the main news only to often be revisited when the sports news is on later.  Okay I'm not a sports fanatic but shouldn't sports be covered in the sports section leaving more time for other news items?

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  # 1413093 24-Oct-2015 08:58
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geek4me: I find both TV1 and TV3 lacking in international news. There almost seems to be a sense of relief in the presenters voices when they get to the sports news. Perhaps this is why more and more sport related items are appearing in the main news only to often be revisited when the sports news is on later.  Okay I'm not a sports fanatic but shouldn't sports be covered in the sports section leaving more time for other news items?


It's very true - there is rarely (if ever) any nuanced analysis of world current affairs to help viewers understand why X happening in country Y will eventually affect NZ and how it will do so.





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  # 1413094 24-Oct-2015 09:00
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Jaxson: Without being rude, we watch Prime news at 5:30
It's half an hour, which is what the original 6pm news was on TV1 back in the day.
They don't muck around with 'Today's Good Sort' etc on there.

TV1 was originally half and hour, followed by Holmes, and then they rolled that into a full hour and then they put something newsy on at 7pm also. 
Still bugger all happens day to day in NZ, but they don't include additional international news to pad it out, so it's just awfully wishy washy.

I prefer TV3 over TV1. 
TV1 has that pretentious lot saying Fong ahh nui and O oma roo  etc, which is just disrespectful to people from those districts.


So true. To everyone else, it is wong ga nui and om a ru. To much political correctness on TVNZ, and I cringe each time they pronounce those place names.


 

Also some new place called Torpoor.





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  # 1413096 24-Oct-2015 09:02
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Neither. Have not seen tv news for a couple of years! I go online to stay up to date, including places like the intercept.com for insight into what is really going on in the world.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1413100 24-Oct-2015 09:13
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We don't have fta tv at our place so don't watch NZ tv, we only stream stuff from the internet (but don't/won't use 1 or 3's on demand services). I used to stream One News until they changed their website a few months back, now I simply can't get their feed to stream to my late 2014 Samsung. That forced me on to 3 News.

I generally only watch the first 10 minutes to get a feel for local happenings then wander off to do other stuff until the weather comes on (although I have the metservice app so not sure why I bother with this). It's generally a pretty poor offering over that first 10 minutes with a decent chunk being taken up by sports at the moment, even though they have a dedicated sports segment.

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  # 1413113 24-Oct-2015 10:32
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Both TV1 and TV3 news programmes are way beyond awful.

And Prime are insulting the word 'News' to include it in the name of their programme.

They should all be forced to watch BBC news programmes to see how it should be done.

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  # 1413411 25-Oct-2015 10:45

I don't watch much TV anymore.

If I watch anything it is generally news and related (e.g. Q@A etc..)

I do prefer TV3 news over Tv1 and Prime.

Hillary and Mike are real people to me. Also, I got very turned off by TV1 promoting up coming TV programs as news.

After the main news..

I just can't stand 7Sharp. It isn't even news imo.

The presenters just irritate me. Toni Street tries too hard to be likeable. Mike Hosking looks bored and is boring and opinionated. I don't like to be told what to think.

TV'3 Story is OK. I quite like the presenters. But, obviously TV3 wanted to cut the budget from Campbell Live.

For all those critical of TV journalists. I think it is worth reviewing the Government's decision of a few years back. Essentially they released TVNZ from public broadcasting considerations and purely focused them on making money. I think it changed TVNZ and their competitors too.


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  # 1413415 25-Oct-2015 10:58
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Dratsab: We don't have fta tv at our place so don't watch NZ tv, we only stream stuff from the internet (but don't/won't use 1 or 3's on demand services). I used to stream One News until they changed their website a few months back, now I simply can't get their feed to stream to my late 2014 Samsung. That forced me on to 3 News.

I generally only watch the first 10 minutes to get a feel for local happenings then wander off to do other stuff until the weather comes on (although I have the metservice app so not sure why I bother with this). It's generally a pretty poor offering over that first 10 minutes with a decent chunk being taken up by sports at the moment, even though they have a dedicated sports segment.


Agree. The first minutes offer the news at hand, that covers the hour for me. Weather I like, its detailed,  if there are weather issues happening. TV 1 does me for that first 5 or 10 and the last 5

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  # 1413433 25-Oct-2015 11:30
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I haven't watched anything on state television for at least 15 years. I'm surprised it still exists to be honest.

Having said that, as others have pointed out, 3 News is also pretty bad and I'm getting sick of rugby being the lead item on the main news. Generally I only watch it during the winter - during daylight savings hours I'd rather use the 6pm - 7pm to go out for a run. 

The thing you have to remember is that commercial TV stations are in the business of selling a dumbed down audience to big spending advertisers such as McDonalds, Coca-cola, Unilever, etc. It's hardly surprising that the only quality programme that I go out of my way to watch - The Nation - is publicly funded and airs during ad-free Sunday mornings.

I have been watching Story since it started and it's okay, but I definitely preferred Campbell Live. I think it is going to end up a total commercial failure and will be scrapped within the next year.

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  # 1413434 25-Oct-2015 11:34
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JWR:

For all those critical of TV journalists. I think it is worth reviewing the Government's decision of a few years back. Essentially they released TVNZ from public broadcasting considerations and purely focused them on making money. I think it changed TVNZ and their competitors too.



It is called the race to the bottom, or how can we out-dumb the competition. I don't blame the journalists for this. Duncan Garner for one is excellent and is being forced to operate way below his capability. 

I blame the government, certainly, and especially the incompetent idiot Minister of Broadcasting at the time Craig Foss, but that doesn't account for all of it. The weird thing is how the NZ TV broadcasters are self-destructing. No-one watches the ads, revenues are plummeting, viewers under the age of 80 have all gone streaming, yet they just keep doing the same old same old as if the dinosaur model will somehow magically start working again. It is as if they have lost the will to live. In today's world, New Zealand broadcast television has nothing left to offer. They should just pull the plug and let the Kiwi sleep in his dish.
 




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  # 1413471 25-Oct-2015 13:22
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I might have Prime News on in the background if I'm around, otherwise I watch the first five minutes of TV1 to see if there is anything important locally.  If the first story is a sports one, I switch over to Netflix/BBC iplayer right away.

I find that now I'm not bombarded with shouty adverts every five minutes I'm a lot more relaxed.  I'm quite surprised at how much better I feel not being constantly interrupted.

These days my news sources tend to be BBC, Aljazeera and RT (Russian news).  Then I flick through a number of online papers in the UK mostly, since we don't really have any decent press here anymore.  I look up the met service for my weather.





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  # 1413560 25-Oct-2015 17:21
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TV3 - because I live out of the country and TVNZ restrict ALL their streaming content to a NZ IP. At least TV3 will stream their news programmes outside of the country - but the news is of low quality (sensationalist) and TV3s streaming tech is abysmal. Recently get ten minutes into news stream and it stops and flash popup tells me "content you are trying to watch is unavailable"

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