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  Reply # 1414781 27-Oct-2015 15:31
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DizzyD:
MikeB4: WOW!!!! just wow I must be living in a Back to the future movie and the time was set way in the past.


I like to think that the future is all about less PC correctness, less H&S rules, less worrying about what you can/cant say at the risk of somebody/something being offended. If its not, well then I feel sorry for our future generations. 







I call it growth and maturity of a society




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  Reply # 1414794 27-Oct-2015 15:44
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MikeB4:
DizzyD:
MikeB4: WOW!!!! just wow I must be living in a Back to the future movie and the time was set way in the past.


I like to think that the future is all about less PC correctness, less H&S rules, less worrying about what you can/cant say at the risk of somebody/something being offended. If its not, well then I feel sorry for our future generations. 







I call it growth and maturity of a society


Democracy cannot survive without freedom of speech. IMO freedom of speech will probably only survive for maybe another 50-100 years. It already has its limitations today (As you highlighted). 

Whats more important, my right to say something, or somebody else's right to not be offended? The right to free speech should always overwrite the latter. Not everybody will take offence at being called a "mummy's boy". Why is that such a bad thing to say? And what happened to the right to say it?




 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1414795 27-Oct-2015 15:45
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This thread is awesome. It has gone from a waitress and a highchair to the extinction of the parasitic human race.

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DizzyD:
MikeB4: WOW!!!! just wow I must be living in a Back to the future movie and the time was set way in the past.


I like to think that the future is all about less PC correctness, less H&S rules, less worrying about what you can/cant say at the risk of somebody/something being offended. If its not, well then I feel sorry for our future generations. 







Sadly this isn't how the world will be. Going forward it will just get worse and worse and worse and worse.. You get the idea. 



Yep there are two types of people in this world the "Go down to the beach with a stick and write in the sand type" and the "Harden the F--- up" type. Unfortunately the world seems to think anyone who doesn't think like the former are out of touch or somehow less evolved.






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  Reply # 1414798 27-Oct-2015 15:47
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Paul1977: This thread is awesome. It has gone from a waitress and a highchair to the extinction of the parasitic human race.


I don't think I've ever had a thread go off tangent so much and with such varied topic. We almost hit gun control!

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Paul1977: This thread is awesome. It has gone from a waitress and a highchair to the extinction of the parasitic human race.


I was just thinking the exact same thing. 

Its in the "off topic" section, so I guess it does not have to remain on topic either?

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  Reply # 1414801 27-Oct-2015 15:50
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Paul1977: This thread is awesome. It has gone from a waitress and a highchair to the extinction of the parasitic human race.


I was just thinking the exact same thing. 

Its in the "off topic" section, so I guess it does not have to remain on topic either?


It gets better by the minute





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  Reply # 1414804 27-Oct-2015 15:50
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DizzyD:
MikeB4:
DizzyD:
MikeB4: WOW!!!! just wow I must be living in a Back to the future movie and the time was set way in the past.


I like to think that the future is all about less PC correctness, less H&S rules, less worrying about what you can/cant say at the risk of somebody/something being offended. If its not, well then I feel sorry for our future generations. 







I call it growth and maturity of a society


Democracy cannot survive without freedom of speech. IMO freedom of speech will probably only survive for maybe another 50-100 years. It already has its limitations today (As you highlighted). 

Whats more important, my right to say something, or somebody else's right to not be offended? The right to free speech should always overwrite the latter. Not everybody will take offence at being called a "mummy's boy". Why is that such a bad thing to say? And what happened to the right to say it?





freedom of speech does not imply freedom to hate, mock, assault others with that speech




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  Reply # 1414807 27-Oct-2015 15:52
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MikeB4:
DizzyD:
MikeB4:
DizzyD:
MikeB4: WOW!!!! just wow I must be living in a Back to the future movie and the time was set way in the past.


I like to think that the future is all about less PC correctness, less H&S rules, less worrying about what you can/cant say at the risk of somebody/something being offended. If its not, well then I feel sorry for our future generations. 







I call it growth and maturity of a society


Democracy cannot survive without freedom of speech. IMO freedom of speech will probably only survive for maybe another 50-100 years. It already has its limitations today (As you highlighted). 

Whats more important, my right to say something, or somebody else's right to not be offended? The right to free speech should always overwrite the latter. Not everybody will take offence at being called a "mummy's boy". Why is that such a bad thing to say? And what happened to the right to say it?





freedom of speech does not imply freedom to hate, mock, assault others with that speech


So calling somebody a "mummys boy" is hate speech? WOW!! OK, maybe my estimates are wrong, lets make that 15 years. 

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DizzyD:
MikeB4:
DizzyD:
MikeB4: WOW!!!! just wow I must be living in a Back to the future movie and the time was set way in the past.


I like to think that the future is all about less PC correctness, less H&S rules, less worrying about what you can/cant say at the risk of somebody/something being offended. If its not, well then I feel sorry for our future generations. 







I call it growth and maturity of a society


Democracy cannot survive without freedom of speech. IMO freedom of speech will probably only survive for maybe another 50-100 years. It already has its limitations today (As you highlighted). 

Whats more important, my right to say something, or somebody else's right to not be offended? The right to free speech should always overwrite the latter. Not everybody will take offence at being called a "mummy's boy". Why is that such a bad thing to say? And what happened to the right to say it?





I agree, the catchall of "that is not appropriate" is used far too often. And as for the "facebook special" of "I was horrified and offended" usually followed by some poor sap having to apologise in case he loses his job. Its just bullying.




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  Reply # 1414813 27-Oct-2015 15:57
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DizzyD:

So calling somebody a "mummys boy" is hate speech? WOW!! OK, maybe my estimates are wrong, lets make that 15 years. 


do you also use derogatory term to describe disabled folk? or folks with a differing sexual orientation, or race? what about hair colour? speech disability? religious belief?

But I do believe your posts are of a particular type and response generator




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mdooher: Yep there are two types of people in this world the "Go down to the beach with a stick and write in the sand type" and the "Harden the F--- up" type. Unfortunately the world seems to think anyone who doesn't think like the former are out of touch or somehow less evolved.

 


I think the problem is more that those who subscribe to the "harden the f_ up" thinking tend to think in black-and-white terms, so much so they may think there are only two types of people in the world!



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  Reply # 1414817 27-Oct-2015 16:00
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I agree, the catchall of "that is not appropriate" is used far too often. And as for the "facebook special" of "I was horrified and offended" usually followed by some poor sap having to apologise in case he loses his job. Its just bullying.


Stephen Fry summed it up quiet nicely.

It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f****** what.

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  Reply # 1414818 27-Oct-2015 16:02
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MikeB4:
DizzyD:

So calling somebody a "mummys boy" is hate speech? WOW!! OK, maybe my estimates are wrong, lets make that 15 years. 


do you also use derogatory term to describe disabled folk? or folks with a differing sexual orientation, or race? what about hair colour? speech disability? religious belief?

But I do believe your posts are of a particular type and response generator


Right there Mike, You don't even realise you are doing it, that last sentence is a put down and it is bullying.






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MikeB4:
DizzyD:

So calling somebody a "mummys boy" is hate speech? WOW!! OK, maybe my estimates are wrong, lets make that 15 years. 


do you also use derogatory term to describe disabled folk? or folks with a differing sexual orientation, or race? what about hair colour? speech disability? religious belief?

But I do believe your posts are of a particular type and response generator


I'm confused, I did not call anybody a "mummy's boy". I am just defending somebody else's right to use the term. 

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