Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 
2085 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 999


  Reply # 1431161 19-Nov-2015 14:15
2 people support this post
Send private message

MikeAqua: If you are visitor to another country you break the law (which includes associating with criminal gangs) at your peril, don't whine about the consequences.


Except that there needs to be some kind of judicial process to prove that you did in fact break the law. Did he in fact associate with the gang? Was that gang illegal? And the first step in that process is a charge being laid.

Except in tinpot dictatorships and Middle Eastern fiefdoms and so on, of course.



509 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 155
Inactive user


  Reply # 1431232 19-Nov-2015 16:07
Send private message

MikeAqua: If you have evidence of racism in policies please present it. 

It's an easy and emotive card to play, but rarely backed up.


Aboriginals were not considered citizens of Australia until 1967, and some were regulated under Flora and Fauna Law. The federal constitution, written in 1900, explicitly stated that Aboriginals would not be counted in any state or federal census. Queensland was the last state in Australia to grant state voting rights to Aboriginals in 1965; Aboriginals in the Northern Territory were considered “wards of the state” and were not allowed to vote in federal elections unless they were ex-servicemen up until 1962. Voting and citizenship rights for Aboriginals were written into the constitution with a 1967 referendum, which also removed discriminatory references to Aboriginals from the Constitution and gave Parliament the power to make laws pertaining to Indigenous Peoples (previous to that, state governments had total law-making power over Aborigines). The referendum set a voting record, with 90.77 percent of the entire population voting in favor of it. Interestingly, the highest percentage of “no” votes were recorded in territories with the highest Aboriginal populations, suggesting that anti-Indigenous racism was still rampant in many areas of Australia (since the passage of the Race Discrimination Act in 1975, 10,5000 complaints have been filed with the government, with more than 3,500 of those coming from Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders). However, though voting is mandatory for all Australian citizens, voting was not made compulsory for Aborigines until 1983.  Queensland has lagged behind in many Indigenous rights lawsQueensland Aborigines could be forced to live on reserves until 1971, and could not own their own property until 1975. In 1959, Aboriginals became eligible to receive pensions and maternity leave, but only if they were not “nomadic or primitive,” and often group payments were made to reserves or missions rather than individuals or communities. Though many of these discriminatory laws were changed in the 1960s and 1970s, others were being created – legislation created in the 1970s requires that the estate of an Aboriginal who dies without leaving a will should be automatically put in the hands of a public trustee, rather than granted to the next of kin as is the case with non-Aboriginals. The Law Reform Committee recommended that this law be changed in 2008, and the Department of Indigenous Affairs confirmed in 2012 that they are “considering it.” Also contentious is New South Wales’ Flora and Fauna Law under the National Parks and Wildlife Act. This law claims that the majority of Aboriginal artifacts are “property of the crown,” and claims jurisdiction over all Aboriginal heritage and culture. Aboriginals, understandably, object to their culture being regulated under an act meant to protect vegetation and wild animals. New South Wales is the only state in Australia not to have a stand-alone Aboriginal Heritage Act, and activists have been lobbying for one for the past thirty years.

 
 
 
 


509 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 155
Inactive user


  Reply # 1431239 19-Nov-2015 16:18
Send private message

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians

I
 could go on but I will respect the topic, but history is a bitch isn't it ? 

17457 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2118

Trusted

  Reply # 1431298 19-Nov-2015 18:23
Send private message

Unlike in NZ, higher death rates in Maori -> not given equal healthcare when Treaty guarantees equality.
Want to free up 4g spectrum -> alleged violating Maori sovereignty when Treaty guarantees sovereignty of Maoridom

Australia by comparison -> racist. Till today the Aboriginals have no to few rights to any representation.

UHD

513 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 216


  Reply # 1431628 20-Nov-2015 11:12
2 people support this post
Send private message

I haven't seen a lot of concern for the practicalities of shifting 500 people with potentially no ties or family back to NZ. I can actually understand John Key's reluctance to act quickly because simply dumping them on the streets and telling them they need to show up for probabation is actually worse than leaving them in a detention centre.

A lot of people seem to be failing to grasp the fact that they are being forced to come home. It is almost certain that their appeals will be denied whether they appeal in Australia or NZ and that fact should be obvious by now. Even the guy with no convictions but associated to a motorcycle gang is extremely unlikely to win an appeal; such is the mood of Australia right now.

756 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 335

Subscriber

  Reply # 1431648 20-Nov-2015 11:57
One person supports this post
Send private message

joker97: Unlike in NZ, higher death rates in Maori -> not given equal healthcare when Treaty guarantees equality.
Want to free up 4g spectrum -> alleged violating Maori sovereignty when Treaty guarantees sovereignty of Maoridom

Australia by comparison -> racist. Till today the Aboriginals have no to few rights to any representation.




Actually Maori healthcare is equal, if anything large sums of money are spent trying to get Maori to use the healthcare system. Likewise because Maori make up the greater portion of the poor, some of the issues are blamed on culture as opposed to financial. However there are issues all around the world with getting indigenous populations to use the healthcare system fully. Part of this is cultural, part is financial. Likewise things like diet, smoking and other lifestyle issues impact the poor/Maori in ways that are poorly documented/accepted.

A simple example, if you have a person with a head injury, you put them into an ambulance feet first because the ambulance can control acceleration , however it may not be able to control braking. This can cause blood to rush to the head causing more damage.

HOWEVER, some cultures believe if you place them feet first into an ambulance, that is a sign they will die.

Outcome between head/feet first are different because of the additional damage. But what does one do ?


It is not just a matter of saying "get over it" and become more pakeha.

17457 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2118

Trusted

  Reply # 1431704 20-Nov-2015 13:42
Send private message

I was just comparing the rights and voice of the Maori in NZ compared to their Aussie counterpart. Perhaps got something to do with the original Australians lol

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

UFB killer app: Speed
Posted 17-Nov-2017 17:01


The case for RSS — MacSparky
Posted 13-Nov-2017 14:35


WordPress and Indieweb: Take control of your online presence — 6:30 GridAKL Nov 30
Posted 11-Nov-2017 13:43


Chorus reveals technology upgrade for schools, students
Posted 10-Nov-2017 10:28


Vodafone says Internet of Things (IoT) crucial for digital transformation
Posted 10-Nov-2017 10:06


Police and Facebook launch AMBER Alerts system in NZ
Posted 9-Nov-2017 10:49


Amazon debuts Fire TV Stick Basic Edition in over 100 new countries
Posted 8-Nov-2017 05:34


Vodafone VoIP transition to start this month
Posted 7-Nov-2017 12:33


Spark enhances IoT network capability
Posted 7-Nov-2017 11:33


Vocus NZ sale and broadband competition
Posted 6-Nov-2017 14:36


Hawaiki reaches key milestone in landmark deep-sea fibre project
Posted 4-Nov-2017 13:53


Countdown launches new proximity online shopping app
Posted 4-Nov-2017 13:50


Nokia 3310 to be available through Spark New Zealand
Posted 4-Nov-2017 13:31


Nest launches in New Zealand
Posted 4-Nov-2017 12:31


Active wholesale as Chorus tackles wireless challenge
Posted 3-Nov-2017 10:55



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.