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  # 1428898 16-Nov-2015 13:33
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Thank goodness that's over.





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  # 1428900 16-Nov-2015 13:36
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Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.





 
 
 
 


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  # 1429081 16-Nov-2015 18:08
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Here's a great example on why "social media" is not always the best source of news: "One man’s hard lesson after the Eiffel Tower’s darkness was mistaken for a moving tribute"

 

 

 


This is fake. The tower goes dark every day at 1am. And yet almost 30,000 people "retweeted" it. Just read the Washington Post story linked above to see how people is being dumbfied by these memes.

And that's a big deal.






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  # 1429083 16-Nov-2015 18:15
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Bobdn: I thought this was an interesting article.  How sad, as the writer points out, that "Paris is under curfew for the first time since the German occupation".  Hard to believe. 

http://www.steynonline.com/7293/the-barbarians-are-inside-and-there-are-no-gates

Similar with this reported by many mainstream news outlets. No curfew was proclaimed at all as far as I can see it was reported only in English language news.

Edit: my bold.

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  # 1429129 16-Nov-2015 18:55
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I hate to bring up the subject again, but the French ambassador to USA had something to say about a sentiment also expressed by an (ex) GZ member on this thread:





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  # 1429132 16-Nov-2015 18:57
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First, Donald Trump is someone who shouldn't be taken seriously, but I am afraid he is.

Second, gun nuts have a hammer, and everything is a nail.

And they're wrong.







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  # 1429152 16-Nov-2015 19:28
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sir1963:
DaveB:
DizzyD: 


..... This very thread is all about gun nuts .....




Having started this thread, can I please suggest that you are incorrect? It is not about "gun nuts". It was a sympathetic statement about the awful events in Paris followed by a simple question "What will Europe look like in another 10 years time?". 

Statistics about gun laws and religious fervour are not the issues here (or at the most, quite minor compared to the real issues). 

Having left the UK 40 years ago, (but returning every two years to visit family), it saddens me to witness the continuing decline throughout Europe and the increasing racial hatred from good middle class people who are seeing their countries being changed before their very eyes. One has to ask why this is? 

What is actually turning people against each other now in such a way that even multi generation Europeans feel that they do not belong or fit into their own country?

1. Relaxed and often uncontrolled immigration policies.
2. Wide open borders.
3. Law-enforced political correctness.
4. Freedom for hate preachers.
5. Human rights lawyers and activists, blindly supporting those who have done, and continue, to do wrong.

It's all very well and idealistic to have these policies and in some cases impossible to undo. Surely the question has to be "How do you make immigrants fit in"? Many have been raised with anti western ideologies and seek to change their new country's way of life. Many fit in and enjoy their new homes, only to see their children turn against their way of life for some new ideology that does not make sense to us westerners. They feel like outcasts and the question has to be "why" and "what can we do about it"?

How do you allow multi generational Europeans to hang onto their heritage and not feel that it is being stripped away from them? 

So, Europe in another 10 years time? It certainly wont be a relaxed multicultural society. It will be divided like nothing we have ever seen, like Belfast many years ago. But on a much larger scale.




And exactly how are you any different from "Them".
Modern Europeans would not feel at home in the Europe of 200 years ago ether.

Was having black slaves OK ?
How about women being classed as property ?
What about marital rape ?
Public floggings/hangings for trivial crimes ?
Child work houses ?

Perhaps you want to look at how the early settlers into the USA chose to conform to the local culture, they chose the gun then too, as they did when arriving in any other culture.

Maybe all but Native Americans should be forced back to their home countries of England, Germany, France, Holland, Spain, Italy etc etc too, so they can go back to the culture they had for centuries.

Maybe you want to look at which countries are supplying the guns, the bombs, the missiles into the middle east, or how these same countries wilfully ignore human rights and the laws of their own countries so they can torture prisoners.

Western news certainly does not report an unbiased point of view, it ignores most of the violence, and hypes up anything they can sell to the public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents%2C_2015

How many of them did you hear about ?

Where was the option of bombing the hell out of Russia when they helped shoot down an civilian plane ?


Well excuse me for having a few questions on my mind! Who exactly is "THEM" that you question whether I am any different to?

Please explain. Your reply, having moved totally away from my questions and comments has left me a more than a little perplexed.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1429153 16-Nov-2015 19:30
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freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.



I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or cheering at this!

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  # 1429155 16-Nov-2015 19:34
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DaveB:
freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.



I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or cheering at this!


Perhaps this thread can discuss how to eradicate ISIS? Difficult yes, what we say wont be taken into consideration, but a very very difficult question. Well worth brainstorming.

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  # 1429187 16-Nov-2015 19:58
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tdgeek:
DaveB:
freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.



I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or cheering at this!


Perhaps this thread can discuss how to eradicate ISIS? Difficult yes, what we say wont be taken into consideration, but a very very difficult question. Well worth brainstorming.


Only the Arabs can do it. No one else.




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  # 1429192 16-Nov-2015 20:07
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freitasm: First, Donald Trump is someone who shouldn't be taken seriously, but I am afraid he is.

Second, gun nuts have a hammer, and everything is a nail.

And they're wrong.



Just imagine the nightmare of Trump in the White House




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tdgeek:
DaveB:
freitasm: Anonymous will run an operation targeting ISIS.

This is more than some Rambo keyboard-less warriors would do.



I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or cheering at this!


Perhaps this thread can discuss how to eradicate ISIS? Difficult yes, what we say wont be taken into consideration, but a very very difficult question. Well worth brainstorming.


http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/FxyjwMskRAcdbulkmaLdvI/The-right-kind-of-war-on-terrorism.html



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  # 1429205 16-Nov-2015 20:20

MikeB4:
freitasm: First, Donald Trump is someone who shouldn't be taken seriously, but I am afraid he is.

Second, gun nuts have a hammer, and everything is a nail.

And they're wrong.



Just imagine the nightmare of Trump in the White House


The last president of the United States!

Possibly the end of civilization as well.

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This is an image from the 80's video 'Land of Confusion' when Regan was prezi. It's probably apt for a Trump prezi too. yell

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JWR: The last president of the United States!

Possibly the end of civilization as well.


Idiocracy?




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