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  Reply # 1451776 16-Dec-2015 18:15
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How about why I have to register my car (plate, VIN) AND have a licence but you don't have to register a fire arm.

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  Reply # 1451778 16-Dec-2015 18:16
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loceff13: I hope she actually gets prosecuted for what she did.


Why?  Best case tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars spent securing a $1000 fine and a boatload of cheap publicity for the reporter and the show.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1451780 16-Dec-2015 18:18
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Why? the licence holder is legally allowed to possess it for a sufficient purpose...like receiving it from the courier. So why should they have an extra condition imposed? particularly one that doesn't make it any more likely that the gun will not be stolen.


All these protests, not a single decent reason why it's even a problem. You'll find little sympathy for your "plight" as safety will trump convenience in almost every sane situation.

If you have a problem with the new rules, don't buy guns. Your choice.

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  Reply # 1451791 16-Dec-2015 18:22
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mdooher: To be honest I would be very happy to have all mail order guns delivered to the nearest Police station.

If safety rather than public perception was paramount then this is the obvious solution. Of course they won't do that because they don't want to spend taxpayers money on making the system safer. Why? Because it would be a waste of public money.


I'd be VERY happy for my tax payers money to be spent making this a reality. I think it should be the way it is anyway. I think ALL guns sold, should require to be sent to a police station for collection.

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  Reply # 1451793 16-Dec-2015 18:24
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loceff13: I hope she actually gets prosecuted for what she did.


Why?  Best case tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars spent securing a $1000 fine and a boatload of cheap publicity for the reporter and the show.


because she impersonated a police officer and committed fraud in doing it, you try it and see if the police give you a slap on the hand. And it is more than a fine, 7 years in jail is the maximum sentence for what she did .



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  Reply # 1451797 16-Dec-2015 18:30
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afe66: How about why I have to register my car (plate, VIN) AND have a licence but you don't have to register a fire arm.

(ducks)

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Because Canada tried it and already proved it didn't work, as did New Zealand

However... my guns are registered with the Police




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  Reply # 1451805 16-Dec-2015 18:34
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Why? the licence holder is legally allowed to possess it for a sufficient purpose...like receiving it from the courier. So why should they have an extra condition imposed? particularly one that doesn't make it any more likely that the gun will not be stolen.


All these protests, not a single decent reason why it's even a problem. You'll find little sympathy for your "plight" as safety will trump convenience in almost every sane situation.

If you have a problem with the new rules, don't buy guns. Your choice.


Have you ever tried to pick up a parcel from the depot? last time I tried it they couldn't even find it. They then told me to go out the back and search through the bays myself... I couldn't find it. It took them two more days to find it after that




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  Reply # 1451806 16-Dec-2015 18:36
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Why? the licence holder is legally allowed to possess it for a sufficient purpose...like receiving it from the courier. So why should they have an extra condition imposed? particularly one that doesn't make it any more likely that the gun will not be stolen.


All these protests, not a single decent reason why it's even a problem. You'll find little sympathy for your "plight" as safety will trump convenience in almost every sane situation.

If you have a problem with the new rules, don't buy guns. Your choice.


Have you ever tried to pick up a parcel from the depot? last time I tried it they couldn't even find it. They then told me to go out the back and search through the bays myself... I couldn't find it. It took them two more days to find it after that


Still not hearing a single valid argument.

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  Reply # 1451809 16-Dec-2015 18:40
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So there's a small extra condition to satisfy for the privilege of mail order purchasing an item which has as a primary function, killing things by firing metal projectiles into their body - and you have a problem with it?

I don't care that you don't think the system's perfect, or that the proposed change isn't ideal. Anything we do to prevent NZ from heading down the path of a place like the US is a good thing.

I don't even care how ham fisted the above comparison is either. Stop complaining that there's a small change to being able to buy death machines.

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  Reply # 1451810 16-Dec-2015 18:42
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Try ordering cyanide or similar. Much more hurdles to jump thru.




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  Reply # 1451811 16-Dec-2015 18:42
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hashbrown:
loceff13: I hope she actually gets prosecuted for what she did.


Why?  Best case tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars spent securing a $1000 fine and a boatload of cheap publicity for the reporter and the show.


because she impersonated a police officer and committed fraud in doing it, you try it and see if the police give you a slap on the hand. And it is more than a fine, 7 years in jail is the maximum sentence for what she did .


First time offender.  No criminal intent to use the weapon.  Nobody is doing jail time here.



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  Reply # 1451812 16-Dec-2015 18:45
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mdooher:
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Why? the licence holder is legally allowed to possess it for a sufficient purpose...like receiving it from the courier. So why should they have an extra condition imposed? particularly one that doesn't make it any more likely that the gun will not be stolen.


All these protests, not a single decent reason why it's even a problem. You'll find little sympathy for your "plight" as safety will trump convenience in almost every sane situation.

If you have a problem with the new rules, don't buy guns. Your choice.


Have you ever tried to pick up a parcel from the depot? last time I tried it they couldn't even find it. They then told me to go out the back and search through the bays myself... I couldn't find it. It took them two more days to find it after that


Still not hearing a single valid argument.


Ok, Why should a person who is legally entitled to purchase a Gun by mail order and legally have It delivered to him wherever he is in the country have the Police arbitrarily override the arms act and impose a condition that is not legally enforceable.

 




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  Reply # 1451814 16-Dec-2015 18:45
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Unless she gets a grumpy old judge who prefers one news...




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  Reply # 1451815 16-Dec-2015 18:46
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vexxxboy:
hashbrown:
loceff13: I hope she actually gets prosecuted for what she did.


Why?  Best case tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars spent securing a $1000 fine and a boatload of cheap publicity for the reporter and the show.


because she impersonated a police officer and committed fraud in doing it, you try it and see if the police give you a slap on the hand. And it is more than a fine, 7 years in jail is the maximum sentence for what she did .


First time offender.  No criminal intent to use the weapon.  Nobody is doing jail time here.


I'd agree jail time is an over-reaction here, but the crime was basically committing fraud by forging a Police Officer's identify on an official document (or something like that)... The police were correct to lay the charge because being a journalist isn't a free pass to BREAK THE LAW. If convicted then there's the sentencing to happen.... I'd guess community service or a fine plus perhaps a suspended sentence.

But not being prosecuted because of being a journalist? No thanks, that's a bad place to live.

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networkn:
mdooher:
networkn:



Why? the licence holder is legally allowed to possess it for a sufficient purpose...like receiving it from the courier. So why should they have an extra condition imposed? particularly one that doesn't make it any more likely that the gun will not be stolen.


All these protests, not a single decent reason why it's even a problem. You'll find little sympathy for your "plight" as safety will trump convenience in almost every sane situation.

If you have a problem with the new rules, don't buy guns. Your choice.


Have you ever tried to pick up a parcel from the depot? last time I tried it they couldn't even find it. They then told me to go out the back and search through the bays myself... I couldn't find it. It took them two more days to find it after that


Still not hearing a single valid argument.


Ok, Why should a person who is legally entitled to purchase a Gun by mail order and legally have It delivered to him wherever he is in the country have the Police arbitrarily override the arms act and impose a condition that is not legally enforceable.

 


Well, it appears you missed my links to the police site where this question was clearly answered.

Cheers - N


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