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#189326 24-Dec-2015 14:37
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I was listening to Radio NZ yesterday and they had a lady on who had been delving into some sound archives and was presenting some interviews from the 50's and 60's.

Obviously I wasn't here then - and probably few reading this were either - but what struck me was the much clearer diction and pronunciation of both interviewer and interviewee. This led me to posit that the current interpretation of the NZ accent must be relatively new.

I've read quite a number of self-deprecating comments on the accent in press pieces and even after more than 10 years here I still on occasion have more difficulty understanding what someone here said to me (not often but sometimes) than I would a Frenchman speaking French.

Out of pure curiosity, do you think the accent has 'thickened' (for want of a better expression) over 50 years or so and if so, why?





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  #1456539 24-Dec-2015 15:10
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No not at all we don't have an accent :p

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  #1456554 24-Dec-2015 15:16
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No, more back then the media put on a more English tone to sound more official. Not that there aren't plenty of truly horrid english accents. 

I do wonder if the accent has changed in areas with larger pacific islander populations. Usually I can tell if someone is from Auckland/Northland by their accent. 

 
 
 
 


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  #1456557 24-Dec-2015 15:23
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I have also noticed that New Zealand newsreaders sound a lot more British if you listen to archival material that is several decades old. Dougal Stevenson and Philip Sherry, for example, sound quite different from the modern newsreaders.

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  #1456559 24-Dec-2015 15:28
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I simply don't give a toss about accents, I am interested in what people say not how they say it

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  #1456562 24-Dec-2015 15:33
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Years ago there was an article in an NZ newspaper that had a worldwide poll about accents.
The one voted the worst was NZ women :D

I cut it out a laminated it for the people that had a go at my Aussie accent. tongue-out

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  #1456563 24-Dec-2015 15:33
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TV/radio presenters had to speak using 'received pronunciation' before they were allowed on air.
This was the formal /proper /neutral English. It sounds very proper today. But certainly easy and clear to understand.

As the whether our accent has got thicker or not - I would imagine it has got stronger.




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  #1456593 24-Dec-2015 16:14
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MikeB4: I simply don't give a toss about accents, I am interested in what people say not how they say it


Until the accent makes it difficult to understand them....!





 
 
 
 


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  #1456597 24-Dec-2015 16:17
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lxsw20: No, more back then the media put on a more English tone to sound more official. Not that there aren't plenty of truly horrid english accents. 

I do wonder if the accent has changed in areas with larger pacific islander populations. Usually I can tell if someone is from Auckland/Northland by their accent. 


I agree; but then I speak with a very BBC English accent.

Estuary English, Brummies and Liverpudlians are probably my least favourite British accents. Estuary just sounds common as muck and the other two can be pretty hard to decipher...





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  #1456598 24-Dec-2015 16:17
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MikeB4: I simply don't give a toss about accents, I am interested in what people say not how they say it


I dislike listening to John Key talk. His accent is awful. 

For some reason,a bad accent or poor pronounciation annoys me. To the detriment of the content too. 



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  #1456610 24-Dec-2015 16:57
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blakamin: Years ago there was an article in an NZ newspaper that had a worldwide poll about accents.
The one voted the worst was NZ women :D

I cut it out a laminated it for the people that had a go at my Aussie accent. tongue-out


To my ear the most beautiful English accent in the world is the one spoken in Melbourne. The farther North you go from there, the uglier.





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  #1456611 24-Dec-2015 16:58
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Rikkitic:
blakamin: Years ago there was an article in an NZ newspaper that had a worldwide poll about accents.
The one voted the worst was NZ women :D

I cut it out a laminated it for the people that had a go at my Aussie accent. tongue-out


To my ear the most beautiful English accent in the world is the one spoken in Melbourne. The farther North you go from there, the uglier.



Lucky I was born in Melbourne laughing

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  #1456614 24-Dec-2015 17:00
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Geektastic:
MikeB4: I simply don't give a toss about accents, I am interested in what people say not how they say it


Until the accent makes it difficult to understand them....!


During my career I have dealt with folks from most ethnicities, cultures etc etc and never had much of a problem
understanding them.

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  #1456616 24-Dec-2015 17:04
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We talk fast apparently, which wont help. 

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  #1456639 24-Dec-2015 17:19
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alasta: I have also noticed that New Zealand newsreaders sound a lot more British if you listen to archival material that is several decades old. Dougal Stevenson and Philip Sherry, for example, sound quite different from the modern newsreaders.


In the old days you had to have a "BBC accent" - that was part of the training.


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  #1456640 24-Dec-2015 17:20
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I think most NZers (and I count myself in that) speak horribly. It's not just out accent, but our inability to pronounce words.



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