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Topic # 190744 11-Jan-2016 10:13
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Hi,

Why do i always see this.
"The employer offers great opportunities."
If im looking for a job i want to know who im applying to work for. Not some random draw of the hat.
I applied for a few jobs on seek and had a recruiter call me back on one and not state who i was applying for. I went through with the phone interview and got past that stage to a personal interview with the employer, Found out who the employer was and withdrew my application.

Like honestly. Why are they trying to hide this?

It wasted my time and effort.

Whats everyone elses thoughts. 
Im looking for IT roles. Telco etc.

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  Reply # 1467386 11-Jan-2016 10:18
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Easy:
- Recruiter gets a commission for introducing you to the company.
- If they advertised the Company Name, what would be keeping you from dealing with the company directly?
- BTW, some company would like you more if you came directly based on the 15k+ that the recruiter would be costing them in case you were hired.

The fact that you went through a phone interview without knowing who the job was with is more concerning though. You should be asking the recruiter straight away, they will tell you , even over the phone. The difference is that as soon as they tell you, they will have a claim on their commission if you are ever hired, even if you hang up straight away on go deal with the company directly.



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  Reply # 1467394 11-Jan-2016 10:31
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Conclusively answered the question there.
Thank you.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1467399 11-Jan-2016 10:38
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No worries.

BTW, what type of jobs are you looking for? I know of some openings in Dev, QA and Product Management.

Cheers

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  Reply # 1467401 11-Jan-2016 10:41
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I'm currently in the job market here in the UK. The one that really grinds my gears is Salary Package: Competitive. That tells me zero. Put a bracket at least. 

If the recruiter is lazy, they may had just copied and pasted the job add from the actual employers website. It's worth googling some of the phrasing they have used to see if you can find the actual job and cut out the middle man.

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  Reply # 1467403 11-Jan-2016 10:42
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From an employer perspective, I did not really like anon advertising I believed in openness, however when one advertises directly, by passing an agency the job of shortlisting becomes a nightmare with an avalanche
of applications. By doing it anonymously it cut that down considerably. I liked to reply to all unsuccessful  applicants, not by a form letter but a personalised letter explaining why they were unsuccessful so an avalanche
made that a very big job indeed.




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  Reply # 1467408 11-Jan-2016 10:46
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I agree Tim, what's wrong with been open and honest right off the bat.

 

 

Another thing that I've seen is advertising a job in a particular area, lets say Auckland, but the job is actually in Christchurch, if I was looking for a job in Christchurch that's the search region I would set.

 




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  Reply # 1467436 11-Jan-2016 11:33
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gcorgnet: No worries.

BTW, what type of jobs are you looking for? I know of some openings in Dev, QA and Product Management.

Cheers


Im looking for something entry level. I have 4-5 years experience in service and networking/computing.

gregmcc:
Another thing that I've seen is advertising a job in a particular area, lets say Auckland, but the job is actually in Christchurch, if I was looking for a job in Christchurch that's the search region I would set.


Auckland is quite a large area.
A place i applied for was "based" in the CBD but turns out id be working down penrose..
So much for Central easily accessible location.

For those curious i applied for a technical contact centre role.
Found out it was a specific company that has a high staff churn rate and knew people who used to work there that didnt enjoy it.
They are NZ based but serve Australia. May have been related to Ihug back in the day.

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  Reply # 1467477 11-Jan-2016 12:08
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I never understood why they never listed the annual salary either.

In the UK pretty much all job adverts for professionals would say "Salary and benefits in the region of...."

I'm self employed so it does not affect me, but SWMBO gets contracts from Seek sometimes and she has to ring, say "Could you give me an idea of salary level please?" usually followed by "Ah, that is not enough to be of interest, thanks anyway."

Would be far easier just to print it and qualify your enquiries immediately by weeding out those not looking in that ballpark.





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  Reply # 1467478 11-Jan-2016 12:08
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TimA: 
For those curious i applied for a technical contact centre role.
Found out it was a specific company that has a high staff churn rate and knew people who used to work there that didnt enjoy it.
They are NZ based but serve Australia. May have been related to Ihug back in the day.


Aye aye captain, I've heard the same thing.

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  Reply # 1467480 11-Jan-2016 12:11
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Geektastic: I never understood why they never listed the annual salary either.

In the UK pretty much all job adverts for professionals would say "Salary and benefits in the region of...."


I would say it's a 60/40 spit for me looking for a Sys Admin role in the UK. As in 40% don't list. 

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  Reply # 1467544 11-Jan-2016 13:15
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gregmcc: I agree Tim, what's wrong with been open and honest right off the bat. Another thing that I've seen is advertising a job in a particular area, lets say Auckland, but the job is actually in Christchurch, if I was looking for a job in Christchurch that's the search region I would set.


You think that's bad? I search for jobs here in Brisbane and get jobs which are actually in Christchurch!

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TimA:

For those curious i applied for a technical contact centre role.
Found out it was a specific company that has a high staff churn rate and knew people who used to work there that didnt enjoy it.
They are NZ based but serve Australia. May have been related to Ihug back in the day.


Their churn rate is indeed pretty impressive.. would be so suited for you tim!




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  Reply # 1467553 11-Jan-2016 13:23
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hio77:
TimA:

For those curious i applied for a technical contact centre role.
Found out it was a specific company that has a high staff churn rate and knew people who used to work there that didnt enjoy it.
They are NZ based but serve Australia. May have been related to Ihug back in the day.


Their churn rate is indeed pretty impressive.. would be so suited for you tim!


Ayy, What you implying there!!

I worked at Vodafone for almost 2 years and i have been at a car dealership ever since!

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  Reply # 1467554 11-Jan-2016 13:24
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TimA:
hio77:
TimA:

For those curious i applied for a technical contact centre role.
Found out it was a specific company that has a high staff churn rate and knew people who used to work there that didnt enjoy it.
They are NZ based but serve Australia. May have been related to Ihug back in the day.


Their churn rate is indeed pretty impressive.. would be so suited for you tim!


Ayy, What you implying there!!

I worked at Vodafone for almost 2 years and i have been at a car dealership ever since!


That's a difference. From what you post here working in the Auto Industry seems well suited and would be doing what you love.




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  Reply # 1467575 11-Jan-2016 13:42
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MikeB4:
TimA:
hio77:
TimA:

For those curious i applied for a technical contact centre role.
Found out it was a specific company that has a high staff churn rate and knew people who used to work there that didnt enjoy it.
They are NZ based but serve Australia. May have been related to Ihug back in the day.


Their churn rate is indeed pretty impressive.. would be so suited for you tim!


Ayy, What you implying there!!

I worked at Vodafone for almost 2 years and i have been at a car dealership ever since!


That's a difference. From what you post here working in the Auto Industry seems well suited and would be doing what you love.


Its a passion for me and im good at what i do. But in reality its not a career for me.
I can definitely go further in IT. In the telco sector i feel at home.
Even till this day i regret leaving Vodafone.


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