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  Reply # 1468590 12-Jan-2016 16:35
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Geektastic: I think charging Listing Fees AND Success Fees is double dipping....


But you don't have to pay listing fees normally, any success fees. Or are they changing that.? If they are going to also how charge ousting fees, then I will cease using them, as there shouldn't be a listing fee, and things can take many resisting before they end up selling.


You don't HAVE to, but to have a successful auction you're expected to.

The 55c for Gallery irks me. 55c who cares but so many less views without it so virtually compulsory. Irrational but it makes me grr every time : ).

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  Reply # 1468600 12-Jan-2016 16:52
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No other real option - so yeah (as has been mentioned before), what are ya goanna do :\
#MonopolyFTW

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  Reply # 1468604 12-Jan-2016 16:59
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It is called the 'shared success' business model. I see many providers now doing it, such as ecommerce/shopping cart providers. I have seen some providers try to justify the higher fees for the higher sale price, by saying that higher turnover generates more load on the infrastructure, so the highest users should pay more, as they cost more. In some cases that maybe true, especially for popular products that get thousands of page views. But I think you are going to see this shared success model come in on a lot more things in the future.

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  Reply # 1468606 12-Jan-2016 17:01
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gzt:
macuser:
mattwnz:
Geektastic: I think charging Listing Fees AND Success Fees is double dipping....


But you don't have to pay listing fees normally, any success fees. Or are they changing that.? If they are going to also how charge ousting fees, then I will cease using them, as there shouldn't be a listing fee, and things can take many resisting before they end up selling.


You don't HAVE to, but to have a successful auction you're expected to.

The 55c for Gallery irks me. 55c who cares but so many less views without it so virtually compulsory. Irrational but it makes me grr every time : ).


I have rarely paid it, and it hasn't made any noticeable difference when I did. The thing is that it makes no difference if you pay it or not, if the person is doing a search on the app or mobile website, as it will display images for all listings, whether you paid for a gallery listing or not. It just doesn't do it on their desktop website. But I suspect many people don't use the desktop website much these days. 50% of website visitors tend to be from mobile devices these days.

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  Reply # 1468612 12-Jan-2016 17:17
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E3xtc: No other real option - so yeah (as has been mentioned before), what are ya goanna do :\
#MonopolyFTW

I don't really care too much, I just build the commission into the price, as it is really the buyer who is paying the commission when it sells. It will probably see professional traders putting up their prices a bit.

It is interesting about all these overseas businesses who are now listed on trademe, as you don't really know if they are overseas based or not, and whether you have CGA protection if you buy from them. The trademe website says if the trader is in 'intrade' then you do have CGA protection, but this doesn't look like it would apply to overseas based 'intrade' traders, as I have asked them directly.

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  Reply # 1468614 12-Jan-2016 17:19
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tehgerbil: So in other words, this is how a monopoly works. 


Upset too many people and the opportunity is created for competition. 

I like trademe, but still think it has gone downhill since the Aussies bought it.

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  Reply # 1468621 12-Jan-2016 17:32
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MikeB4: I have all but stopped using Trademe. I have not purchased anything for a long time and I either give things away to family or take them to the Salvation Army.

Yeah same I just don't find it fun like it used to be.

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I say we all whinge to the govt and make them regulate the NZ online auction space. After all, access to TM should be a basic human right if it isn't already.... What's more, it would be nice if TM were forced to open up their infrastructure and eyeballs to other companies wanting to start online auction businesses.

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Talkiet: I say we all whinge to the govt and make them regulate the NZ online auction space. After all, access to TM should be a basic human right if it isn't already.... What's more, it would be nice if TM were forced to open up their infrastructure and eyeballs to other companies wanting to start online auction businesses.

Cheers - N



I know that is tongue and cheek. However I wouldn't be surprised if there was regulation in some form in the online space for some things. The fact is that we do need competition, and is is almost impossible to setup a competing successful auction site, as you need a critical mass for it to work. Although I can't see how it would work, apart from fees being regulated, as I can't see any big player setting up a competing service.

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Talkiet: I say we all whinge to the govt and make them regulate the NZ online auction space. After all, access to TM should be a basic human right if it isn't already.... What's more, it would be nice if TM were forced to open up their infrastructure and eyeballs to other companies wanting to start online auction businesses.

Cheers - N



Not only that, but foreign companies should have access to that infrastructure and the ability to set up competition because it's in the best interests of the NZ consumers and those foreign companies will create jobs here in NZ.  

Perhaps, TM could spin off their infrastructure. 







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You could use email to text in the advert, then communicate with the who ever is interested outside of TM.
However, there is always those disputes! 






The little things make the biggest difference.

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  Reply # 1468694 12-Jan-2016 20:37
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Yeh i know quite a few people who don't bother with trademe anymore. Theres also soo many tyre kickers out there.

If its an item that might be more difficult to sell then I guess its still a good bet, but I have seen a LOT of facebook trade/swap groups which also make it easier to sell items that might be more sought after.

e.g. if i said i got an iphone 5s for sale i could probably sell it pretty quick in a facebook group or on geekzone. Of if I was selling a specalized stamp collection i would call a club. If it was  a small piece of furniture then i would probably resort to trademe. 

The fact of the matter is they are publicly listed and a monopoly. So they pretty much charge what they want, their phone/tablet apps work really well, even the real estate guys have been having a dig at them. 







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  Reply # 1468738 12-Jan-2016 21:08
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People didn't think telecom would get regulated. It is likely pay TV in nz would also have been related if it wasn't for a major shift in technology. So companies can face relation if there is an to be a local of competition that is meaning consumers are paying more than they should.

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  Reply # 1468762 12-Jan-2016 21:45
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darylblake: Yeh i know quite a few people who don't bother with trademe anymore. Theres also soo many tyre kickers out there. 

Tell me about it!! I've had a car advertised for a few weeks and the amount of virtual tyre kickers I've had is amazing. 

It's been a long time since a I used Trademe and I've got a bit of stuff to sell now - mostly baby related. A couple of items sold on Trademe recently but the majority just generated quite a few watchers - what a waste of time. I think I'll post some of the items here, but other than that it seems like it's time to research selling on Facebook.

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  Reply # 1468824 12-Jan-2016 23:49
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freitasm: I sell almost everything (electronic) here on Geekzone, usually in minutes.



Partly due to the fact that we all want to own something that has been blessed...! It's the geek equivalent of bits of the true cross being sold for a groat at the door of a medieval cathedral! ;-)





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