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  Reply # 1640644 26-Sep-2016 13:43
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But just think what a fantastic choice of plastic industrial crap fast food we have, Carl's Jr, Wendy's, McDonald's, Burger King, Dominos, Subway, KFC, and  a few more, all next  to each other on the main street in Hastings. I can feel my BMI go up every time I drive through town.

 

 





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  Reply # 1640673 26-Sep-2016 13:51
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I'm deeply skeptical that most of the so-called "wholemeal" bread being sold as "healthy" truly isn't - it's just white bread with some whole grains and probably colour thrown in.  Even if it's made from a wholemeal flour, I'm struggling to see how - seeing as most of the bulk seed endosperm has been ground finely - it would induce a significantly different metabolic response to white flour anyway.  The surface area of starch is going to be about the same, it's presumably going to be converted to glucose at the same rate and straight into your bloodstream regardless of the fact that there might be some fibre and other "goodness" there.  Wholegrain as opposed to wholemeal and % w/w of those ingredients might be a better guide.  Moderation is probably wise.

 

Supermarket bread is generally awful IMO, then again the contents of most of the aisles at supermarkets are even worse.  If they had a good clean-out and got rid of all the truly unhealthy crap, I'd be in and out of the much smaller supermarket in half the time.

 

Even in the less toxic department (fruit and vege aisle) at my local supermarket, they were selling mandarins in a new way today.  Pack of 5 Aussie mandarins for $5, each one exactly the same size, each one perfectly set into a vacuum-moulded plastic tray, then encapsulated in an outer wrapper of glossy crystal clear plastic, with big bold text proclaiming that they were "ECO - mandarins" - the smaller print claiming that they were grown in an "environmentally sustainable manner".  ECO mandarins? - why sure they are.  Dirtbags.


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  Reply # 1640766 26-Sep-2016 15:38
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But just think what a fantastic choice of plastic industrial crap fast food we have, Carl's Jr, Wendy's, McDonald's, Burger King, Dominos, Subway, KFC, and  a few more, all next  to each other on the main street in Hastings. I can feel my BMI go up every time I drive through town.

 

 

A well constructed big mac is delicious. The perfect combination of meat, salt , fat, mayonnaise and between fresh buns.  I once read a top chef praising the big mac, saying how good they taste for the cost.   Problem is, i reckon there is more chance of getting a bad one than a good one.  Can't stand it when you get brown lettuce too.  Also, even mildly stale bread puts me off.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1640768 26-Sep-2016 15:42
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Local online retailers drop shipping products from overseas. 

 

Fishpond for example-- i might want to see if any local retailers have a certain product, so i google for it with site:.nz....... fishpond frequently mess up my search results, say they sell it but it always seems to ship from an overseas supplier.   If i want to buy from overseas i will buy direct, not pay fishpond for the privilege of placing my order. 

 

Some people might find it handy, not me. 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1640775 26-Sep-2016 15:57
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Rikkitic:

 

But just think what a fantastic choice of plastic industrial crap fast food we have, Carl's Jr, Wendy's, McDonald's, Burger King, Dominos, Subway, KFC, and  a few more, all next  to each other on the main street in Hastings. I can feel my BMI go up every time I drive through town.

 

 

A well constructed big mac is delicious. The perfect combination of meat, salt , fat, mayonnaise and between fresh buns.  I once read a top chef praising the big mac, saying how good they taste for the cost.   Problem is, i reckon there is more chance of getting a bad one than a good one.  Can't stand it when you get brown lettuce too.  Also, even mildly stale bread puts me off.   

 

 

There's not too much wrong with a Big Mac IMO - especially if you restrain yourself - to not get it with large fries and coke.

 

Those stands with charity "sausage sizzles" outside hardware stores etc.  You couldn't produce something dogs would willingly eat for the price per kg of those foul-smelling concoctions of chemically preserved and stabilised rendered lard and modified starch - flavoured with emulsified animal waste. Then lightly burn them - to get the carcinogenic nitrosamine content up, smother them in very sugary ersatz tomato sauce, and wrap them in the cheapest nastiest most budget bread you can buy. I shudder when I see people feeding those to their kids. 


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  Reply # 1640816 26-Sep-2016 16:36
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Geektastic: 

 

Our local store sells about 90% what we call "white paper bread" with the balance made up of Vogels and a couple of wholemeal attempts by people like Freyas etc. All very airy and insubstantial, I find.

 

 

I am spoilt with good brown bread from Norway, so had a hard time finding bread here. I have settled on the Bürgen mixed grain bread, its got pretty high levels of fibre, fairly low levels of carbs and actually tastes great.





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  Reply # 1640819 26-Sep-2016 16:40
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Geektastic: 

 

Our local store sells about 90% what we call "white paper bread" with the balance made up of Vogels and a couple of wholemeal attempts by people like Freyas etc. All very airy and insubstantial, I find.

 

 

I am spoilt with good brown bread from Norway, so had a hard time finding bread here. I have settled on the Bürgen mixed grain bread, its got pretty high levels of fibre, fairly low levels of carbs and actually tastes great.

 

 

 

 

We make our own bread. I hate the shop bread it's horrid 





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  Reply # 1640820 26-Sep-2016 16:40
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surfisup1000:

 

A well constructed big mac is delicious. The perfect combination of meat, salt , fat, mayonnaise and between fresh buns.  I once read a top chef praising the big mac, saying how good they taste for the cost.   Problem is, i reckon there is more chance of getting a bad one than a good one.  Can't stand it when you get brown lettuce too.  Also, even mildly stale bread puts me off.   

 

There are a lot of things I would eat when close to starving to death, anything from McDonalds is not on the top 10. Even their "luxury burgers" are pretty lousy.

 

Mind you, this is one of the burgers I have had the misfortune of being served before I gave up on them:

 





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  Reply # 1640825 26-Sep-2016 16:57
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surfisup1000:

 

 

 

A well constructed big mac is delicious. The perfect combination of meat, salt , fat, mayonnaise and between fresh buns.  I once read a top chef praising the big mac, saying how good they taste for the cost.   Problem is, i reckon there is more chance of getting a bad one than a good one.  Can't stand it when you get brown lettuce too.  Also, even mildly stale bread puts me off.   

 

There are a lot of things I would eat when close to starving to death, anything from McDonalds is not on the top 10. Even their "luxury burgers" are pretty lousy.

 

Mind you, this is one of the burgers I have had the misfortune of being served before I gave up on them:

 

 

 

Their premium burgers are not very nice. Big mac is better. 

 

My favourite maccas burger is the Kiwiburger, but they are a special menu item only. 

 

 

 

Sure, I'd also go for a gourmet restaurant meal over a big mac any day, but the price is ten times the big mac combo, and you have to book, and you have to wait, and you have to drive further. 

 

The lettuce on your burger looks like rubber haha. 

 

Favourite fast food cheapo burger of all time is In'n'out, but that is only in california mostly. Interesting ownership story too. 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1640828 26-Sep-2016 17:11
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I wonder what the next American burger chain to arrive in NZ will be? undecided

 

Carls Jr was the most recent I think.


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  Reply # 1640831 26-Sep-2016 17:17
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I would rather we get taco bell here than another burger chain. But if it was to be burgers than in n out





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  Reply # 1640832 26-Sep-2016 17:18
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DarthKermit:

 

I wonder what the next American burger chain to arrive in NZ will be? undecided

 

Carls Jr was the most recent I think.

 

 

Wish Taco Bell would hurry up


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  Reply # 1640834 26-Sep-2016 17:20
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I would rather we get taco bell here than another burger chain. But if it was to be burgers than in n out

 

 

You'd expect it would do ok, you can buy burgers from here to kingdom come. Take away Mexican, Fancy hot dog place too.

 

Back in the day, Farmer Browns, or Johns here in ChCh. Steamed buns, awesome sauce. Could not eat them fast enough. 


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  Reply # 1640846 26-Sep-2016 17:50
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surfisup1000:

 

Rikkitic:

 

But just think what a fantastic choice of plastic industrial crap fast food we have, Carl's Jr, Wendy's, McDonald's, Burger King, Dominos, Subway, KFC, and  a few more, all next  to each other on the main street in Hastings. I can feel my BMI go up every time I drive through town.

 

 

A well constructed big mac is delicious. The perfect combination of meat, salt , fat, mayonnaise and between fresh buns.  I once read a top chef praising the big mac, saying how good they taste for the cost.   Problem is, i reckon there is more chance of getting a bad one than a good one.  Can't stand it when you get brown lettuce too.  Also, even mildly stale bread puts me off.   

 

 

Same as coffee in Wellington. People talk up a lot but reality is you get really good coffee in only a few places but most of the times you get crappy, burnt, overexpressed coffee that taste bitter and not worth the money charged.

 

Nothing wrong with a good Big Mac. Better than Burger King - those are "flame grilled" but then they put the constructed burger in a microwave over for 15 seconds and you get that horrible mess of a burger.





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  Reply # 1640849 26-Sep-2016 17:52
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surfisup1000: Local online retailers drop shipping products from overseas. 

 

Fishpond for example-- i might want to see if any local retailers have a certain product, so i google for it with site:.nz....... fishpond frequently mess up my search results, say they sell it but it always seems to ship from an overseas supplier.   If i want to buy from overseas i will buy direct, not pay fishpond for the privilege of placing my order. 

 

Some people might find it handy, not me. 

 

Me neither.  You can do -fishpond site:.nz, but that in itself is a nuisance.





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