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  #1640857 26-Sep-2016 18:11
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DarthKermit:

 

I wonder what the next American burger chain to arrive in NZ will be? undecided

 

Carls Jr was the most recent I think.

 

 

 

 

We can pray that it is Johnny Rockets - which is actually pretty good - or In & Out, of course, which is also pretty good.






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  #1640866 26-Sep-2016 18:26
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Geektastic:

So agree. Finding decent sausages is very hard, for some reason. Most seem to have an amorphous pink sludge inside rather than anything identifiable as meat! As for those bright purple ones? WTF are they supposed to be?!


And how about "pork flavoured" - *shudder*!


All filled with ear holes, eye holes and =+#$ holes I reckon.


My favourites are obtained from Moore Wilson - Cumberland sausages from one of the Wellington butchers. Meaty with a good amount of pepper and spice. We buy them 1 or 2 kg at a time and freeze them since MW is not just round the corner.



The best sausages in the Wellington region can be found at the Greytown Butchery


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  #1640868 26-Sep-2016 18:28
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Geektastic: So agree. Finding decent sausages is very hard, for some reason. Most seem to have an amorphous pink sludge inside rather than anything identifiable as meat! As for those bright purple ones? WTF are they supposed to be?!

 

 

Yes, people make a big noise because of a video showing "pink slime used for McDonald's chicken nuggets" (something McDonald's hasn't used in years) but have no problem with the "sausages" sold around the supermarkets here.

 

We look for sausages with lots of meat - some of those "cheerios" style stuff has less than 40% meat in them!





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  #1640956 26-Sep-2016 22:21
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Geektastic:

 

 

 

All filled with ear holes, eye holes and =+#$ holes I reckon.

 

 

 

 

It could be even worse than that.  I used to supply all kinds of chemicals and what-not to the food industry.  I suspect those assorted body holes have far too much value for use in other products - than to waste them in food for children.  I used to supply the gelatine industry, one day on a visit to see how the brew using our chemicals was going I was in the factory while they were cooking up one of their batches in a large steaming stainless-steel vat with inspection windows on the side.  That day the raw material was de-haired cow faces and scalps, complete with ears.  Once they'd been soaked in alkaline for a few hours at elevated temperature they'd swollen up to about the size of hippo faces, through the inspection window was this surreal sight of thousands of bloated swollen de-haired cow faces drifting into view and away again.  Of course the end product was perfectly safe - at least in the case of cow-face raw material kosher, halal, whatever. Now when I thought gelatine was made from horses hooves, I'd tolerate it - but that image of cow faces is now embedded on my mind.  When I look at ice cream, gummy bears - I think of swollen ghostly white cow faces floating in a macabre aquarium.  Worse in many ways than the "normal" raw material, half rotten anus offcuts from the hide, lips and unrecognisable animal parts that would arrive at the factory in unrefrigerated 20 foot shipping containers,  so retchingly putrid after a couple of days in a Cant'y Nor'wester that the workers would have to put gas masks on before opening the container doors.  But at least by the time it was in the vat, it was unrecognisable as having come off some living thing.

 

I truly dread to think what's in those budget sausages that people feed to children.  If you excised a random lump from a testicle and put in a jar, chances are it would be more wholesome.


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  #1640990 26-Sep-2016 22:35
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Fred99:

 

Wow. That is pretty much the reason I became a vegetarian, but I could never have put it that eloquently.

 

 

 

 

 





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  #1641004 26-Sep-2016 23:17
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Fred99:

 

Geektastic:

 

 

 

All filled with ear holes, eye holes and =+#$ holes I reckon.

 

 

 

 

It could be even worse than that.  I used to supply all kinds of chemicals and what-not to the food industry.  I suspect those assorted body holes have far too much value for use in other products - than to waste them in food for children.  I used to supply the gelatine industry, one day on a visit to see how the brew using our chemicals was going I was in the factory while they were cooking up one of their batches in a large steaming stainless-steel vat with inspection windows on the side.  That day the raw material was de-haired cow faces and scalps, complete with ears.  Once they'd been soaked in alkaline for a few hours at elevated temperature they'd swollen up to about the size of hippo faces, through the inspection window was this surreal sight of thousands of bloated swollen de-haired cow faces drifting into view and away again.  Of course the end product was perfectly safe - at least in the case of cow-face raw material kosher, halal, whatever. Now when I thought gelatine was made from horses hooves, I'd tolerate it - but that image of cow faces is now embedded on my mind.  When I look at ice cream, gummy bears - I think of swollen ghostly white cow faces floating in a macabre aquarium.  Worse in many ways than the "normal" raw material, half rotten anus offcuts from the hide, lips and unrecognisable animal parts that would arrive at the factory in unrefrigerated 20 foot shipping containers,  so retchingly putrid after a couple of days in a Cant'y Nor'wester that the workers would have to put gas masks on before opening the container doors.  But at least by the time it was in the vat, it was unrecognisable as having come off some living thing.

 

I truly dread to think what's in those budget sausages that people feed to children.  If you excised a random lump from a testicle and put in a jar, chances are it would be more wholesome.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for searing that image into my brain...!! surprised

 

I find it odd that the choice is usually between 'cheap and nasty' and 'even cheaper and nastier'.

 

Where are the sausages made with hand-trimmed organic pork shoulder and so on? 

 

I see some chinks of light - there is a company in Auckland called L'Authentique which is actually run by French people who have moved here. They make some French style sausages (very good but too much garlic for me) but the one thing they make that is simply to die for is a duck liver parfait. Utterly sublime. Costs $10 a go but worth every cent.






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  #1641080 27-Sep-2016 09:44
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Fred99:

 

Geektastic:

 

 

 

All filled with ear holes, eye holes and =+#$ holes I reckon.

 

 

 

 

It could be even worse than that.  I used to supply all kinds of chemicals and what-not to the food industry.  I suspect those assorted body holes have far too much value for use in other products - than to waste them in food for children.  I used to supply the gelatine industry, one day on a visit to see how the brew using our chemicals was going I was in the factory while they were cooking up one of their batches in a large steaming stainless-steel vat with inspection windows on the side.  That day the raw material was de-haired cow faces and scalps, complete with ears.  Once they'd been soaked in alkaline for a few hours at elevated temperature they'd swollen up to about the size of hippo faces, through the inspection window was this surreal sight of thousands of bloated swollen de-haired cow faces drifting into view and away again.  Of course the end product was perfectly safe - at least in the case of cow-face raw material kosher, halal, whatever. Now when I thought gelatine was made from horses hooves, I'd tolerate it - but that image of cow faces is now embedded on my mind.  When I look at ice cream, gummy bears - I think of swollen ghostly white cow faces floating in a macabre aquarium.  Worse in many ways than the "normal" raw material, half rotten anus offcuts from the hide, lips and unrecognisable animal parts that would arrive at the factory in unrefrigerated 20 foot shipping containers,  so retchingly putrid after a couple of days in a Cant'y Nor'wester that the workers would have to put gas masks on before opening the container doors.  But at least by the time it was in the vat, it was unrecognisable as having come off some living thing.

 

I truly dread to think what's in those budget sausages that people feed to children.  If you excised a random lump from a testicle and put in a jar, chances are it would be more wholesome.

 

 

 

 

Gross. 

 

I think stephen hawkings is right not to send messages to aliens.   Or we might be those cows one day.

 

But, the whole meat production industry is pretty ugly. From firing bolts into cows heads to kill them through to the butchering process etc.   And, you wouldn't want to be a factory chicken or cow. 

 

Personally, to me , the treatment while they are alive is more important than what happens after they are dispatched.   

 

 


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  #1641125 27-Sep-2016 10:48
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  #1641142 27-Sep-2016 11:05
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You don't want to know about bread then.

 

Human hair (and, when that's in short supply, chicken feathers, duck feathers, cow horns, and pig bristles (and I wouldn't be surprised if it included the hair removed from cow faces before they became gelatine), is boiled down in China (in, I assume, vast stainless steel vats full of acid with little viewports) to make L-cysteine. This, incidentally, is "natural" L-cysteine, as opposed to "synthetic" L-cysteine. Commercial bakers and "restaurant" chains (e.g. McDs), put L-cysteine into bread to make it keep longer. Hairdressers in China sell their floor sweepings, which are then picked over to remove cigarette butts and suchlike. 

 

The good news is that it's not in flour, so your local baker probably isn't putting it into their freshly-made bread products.

 

 


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  #1641159 27-Sep-2016 11:18
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frankv:

 

You don't want to know about bread then.

 

Human hair (and, when that's in short supply, chicken feathers, duck feathers, cow horns, and pig bristles (and I wouldn't be surprised if it included the hair removed from cow faces before they became gelatine), is boiled down in China (in, I assume, vast stainless steel vats full of acid with little viewports) to make L-cysteine. This, incidentally, is "natural" L-cysteine, as opposed to "synthetic" L-cysteine. Commercial bakers and "restaurant" chains (e.g. McDs), put L-cysteine into bread to make it keep longer. Hairdressers in China sell their floor sweepings, which are then picked over to remove cigarette butts and suchlike. 

 

The good news is that it's not in flour, so your local baker probably isn't putting it into their freshly-made bread products.

 

 

 

 

As long as it's well-boiled, should be OK, eh.





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  #1641205 27-Sep-2016 12:01
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It is not like they are putting hair directly into the dough.




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I wanted some mothballs so toddled off to New World but not even one ball in sight so off to Mitre Ten and the same story when I asked why I was told they were taken off the market as a dangerous product because children might eat them????


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  #1641338 27-Sep-2016 16:18
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madcarue:

 

I wanted some mothballs so toddled off to New World but not even one ball in sight so off to Mitre Ten and the same story when I asked why I was told they were taken off the market as a dangerous product because children might eat them????

 

 

I have heard that too. You have to go to Australia and smuggle them back into the country.





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  #1641339 27-Sep-2016 16:19
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  #1641343 27-Sep-2016 16:23
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kiwifidget:

 

madcarue:

 

I wanted some mothballs so toddled off to New World but not even one ball in sight so off to Mitre Ten and the same story when I asked why I was told they were taken off the market as a dangerous product because children might eat them????

 

 

I have heard that too. You have to go to Australia and smuggle them back into the country.

 

 

Yep, that is true. Looked too much like albino black balls confectionery.

 

 

 

 

I found my last 2 packets in a 2$ shop.

 

 


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