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  Reply # 1679672 29-Nov-2016 18:42
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This is really small, and it really, really annoys me so perfect for this thread: The godawful way English speakers mutilate pronunciation of the name of the great Dutch scientist Christiaan Huygens. It really isn't that hard with a little practice to get it at least approximately right. I'm sure many Maori feel the same about the way their language gets garbled. All it takes is a little effort. Either learn to say his effing name or quit using it on space probes. It is not honouring him if you make it sound like an order for KFC, for godsake.  

 

 





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  Reply # 1679764 29-Nov-2016 20:19
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Rikkitic:

 

This is really small, and it really, really annoys me so perfect for this thread: The godawful way English speakers mutilate pronunciation of the name of the great Dutch scientist Christiaan Huygens. It really isn't that hard with a little practice to get it at least approximately right. I'm sure many Maori feel the same about the way their language gets garbled. All it takes is a little effort. Either learn to say his effing name or quit using it on space probes. It is not honouring him if you make it sound like an order for KFC, for godsake.  

 

 

 

 

Explain???

 

Christiaaan Hi Gins? Phonetically speaking

 

Never heard of him either, hence my post


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1679766 29-Nov-2016 20:22
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BTR:

 

That Gary Mccormick thinks he can just walk into a Koru lounge without membership have drink and then complain when he is caught and banned from using the airline for 2 years. I think good on AirNZ for someone who thinks they are entitled to whatever they want.

 

 

I saw him on a flight once. Cool. But his ego outweighed his presence. I've met a few famous people. Ian Flemings nephew, and his nephew. So much money, so much posh accent. But lovely people. 


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  Reply # 1679770 29-Nov-2016 20:24
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eracode:

 

B-grade TV documentaries that insist on giving you a two-minute re-cap on their contents every ten minutes. Sometimes it's after where they think the TV station will insert an ad break - and that's vaguely insulting to their audience - it's as if they think the audience can't retain a train of thought for a minute or two.

 

Sometimes there's no ad break, just the recap - and that's even more insulting. Really dislike this style of doco-making.

 

 

Or some hyped up TV proggie where the ads seem to take as much time as the proggie. MySky saved me


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  Reply # 1679771 29-Nov-2016 20:25
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jamesrt:

 

eracode:  B-grade TV documentaries that insist on giving you a two-minute re-cap on their contents every ten minutes.

 

According to recent research, they should be doing it much more frequently - apparently we're now down to an 8 second attention span.

 

What was I talking about again?

 

 

Goldfish are 3 apparently, so all good at the moment.


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  Reply # 1679772 29-Nov-2016 20:28
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Fred99:

 

BTR:

 

That Gary Mccormick thinks he can just walk into a Koru lounge without membership have drink and then complain when he is caught and banned from using the airline for 2 years. I think good on AirNZ for someone who thinks they are entitled to whatever they want.

 

 

 

 

I doubt he received a 2 year ban for being caught in a Koru Club.  The article suggested that there'd been a (presumably subsequent) "disagreement" with ground staff which "turned sour".  I guess we can imagine what that means -and I'd be surprised if Air NZ didn't have a security camera recording the scene - something that McCormick should consider if he's going to keep whining.

 

 

 

 

Being a Richard Head I suspect. Apologies to any Richards out there. No Richards were harmed by my post.


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  Reply # 1679775 29-Nov-2016 20:29
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RUKI:

 

mdav056:

 

When I login to GZ, and write a long reply to some post, only to discover when I submit that GZ has logged me off and all that thinking is lost for ever...

 

 

Before you hit the "Post" button (if using PC): Select all, then CTRL+C puts "all that thinking" in a buffer and can be saved (pasted into) TXT, DOC or back into GZ again (after re-logging).

 

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HaHa, leant that!!!!

 

Its ok on a one liner post, but on a one paragraph well thought out post, GRRRRR


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  Reply # 1679776 29-Nov-2016 20:30
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Those people who post 6 posts in a row........


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  Reply # 1679844 29-Nov-2016 21:56
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

Explain???

 

Christiaaan Hi Gins? Phonetically speaking

 

Never heard of him either, hence my post

 

 

How-gens with the w silent and the g pronounced like Scottish ch is a closer approximation. It doesn't matter that you never heard of him. My annoyance is with those who have, and use his name but don't know how to pronounce it.

 

 





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  Reply # 1679849 29-Nov-2016 22:06
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Rikkitic:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

Explain???

 

Christiaaan Hi Gins? Phonetically speaking

 

Never heard of him either, hence my post

 

 

How-gens with the w silent and the g pronounced like Scottish ch is a closer approximation. It doesn't matter that you never heard of him. My annoyance is with those who have, and use his name but don't know how to pronounce it.

 

 

 


Cheers. I get that. At school I was a gun speller, I felt my knowledge of English was very good. After all, I am a kiwi, the rest of the world is so much bigger than NZ.

 

But I can't comprehend how woeful todays language use is. While your example is specific, it also applies elsewhere, its like no one cares about proper language, as long as yous get me, thats kool bro.


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  Reply # 1679852 29-Nov-2016 22:10
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Rikkitic:

 

This is really small, and it really, really annoys me so perfect for this thread: The godawful way English speakers mutilate pronunciation of the name of the great Dutch scientist Christiaan Huygens. It really isn't that hard with a little practice to get it at least approximately right. I'm sure many Maori feel the same about the way their language gets garbled. All it takes is a little effort. Either learn to say his effing name or quit using it on space probes. It is not honouring him if you make it sound like an order for KFC, for godsake.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a native English speaker from England, I could make that point about almost every word spoken in NZ...!

 

Some examples - the number after nine is TEN not TIN. TT in words is not pronounced as DD. The number after five is SIX not SEX. Personnel in the Fire Service are not "in Fire".

 

In relation to your specific point I have never heard any Kiwi mention Mr Huygens so I do not know what it sounds like when they do. I imagine it should be something like "Kristiarn Hoygens" but genuinely have no idea and Dutch is a bit tongue twisting to English speakers IME.

 

This modern idea that you are not showing "respect" unless you pronounce things like a native speaker is all a bit silly though, to be honest. The French do not get all uppity when we refer to Paris as 'Parriss' rather than "Parree" for example.






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  Reply # 1679856 29-Nov-2016 22:16
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Geektastic:

 

 

 

The French do not get all uppity when we refer to Paris as 'Parriss' rather than "Parree" for example.

 

 

They used to. Maybe they have just given up.

 

 





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  Reply # 1679857 29-Nov-2016 22:20
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Geektastic:

 

Rikkitic:

 

This is really small, and it really, really annoys me so perfect for this thread: The godawful way English speakers mutilate pronunciation of the name of the great Dutch scientist Christiaan Huygens. It really isn't that hard with a little practice to get it at least approximately right. I'm sure many Maori feel the same about the way their language gets garbled. All it takes is a little effort. Either learn to say his effing name or quit using it on space probes. It is not honouring him if you make it sound like an order for KFC, for godsake.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a native English speaker from England, I could make that point about almost every word spoken in NZ...!

 

Some examples - the number after nine is TEN not TIN. TT in words is not pronounced as DD. The number after five is SIX not SEX. Personnel in the Fire Service are not "in Fire".

 

In relation to your specific point I have never heard any Kiwi mention Mr Huygens so I do not know what it sounds like when they do. I imagine it should be something like "Kristiarn Hoygens" but genuinely have no idea and Dutch is a bit tongue twisting to English speakers IME.

 

This modern idea that you are not showing "respect" unless you pronounce things like a native speaker is all a bit silly though, to be honest. The French do not get all uppity when we refer to Paris as 'Parriss' rather than "Parree" for example.

 

 

I'm a kiwi, its the guys over the ditch that say sex not six. We also say tin, not teen. We also say mate not cobber!

 

Im just happy that we have no accent, we just listen to accents.....

 

Guy at work is scottish, and when he talks to the girls he calls them lassies. Mate, that show ended months ago....   :-)

 

 


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  Reply # 1679913 30-Nov-2016 07:45
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Getting up tight about someone's accent is the same as getting upset at someone's colour. Listen to what they say and not how they say it and that is easier done when the high horse has been dismounted.




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  Reply # 1679916 30-Nov-2016 07:53
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...and don't even get me started on the voices and accents of some of the reporters on TV One News (or whatever it is called this month).





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