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  Reply # 1689512 15-Dec-2016 15:59
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Behodar:

 

Fred99: it's not as if they're introducing themselves in a foreign language.

 

That's a matter of perspective; it may not be foreign to you, but it certainly is for a large number of people.

 

 

 

 

Not to New Zealanders - in context of "foreign language". If it's "foreign" to New Zealanders in terms of being "strange and unfamiliar", then I suppose they've got very good reason to be annoyed with themselves.

 

 


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I think we may be misunderstanding each other. The OED defines a foreign language as a "language other than one's own". I was born in NZ in the 80s and went to school here, but other than a handful of words and phrases I was never taught Maori. I certainly can't speak it; my native language is English. I'm sure that it's the same for a significant portion of NZers.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1689688 15-Dec-2016 19:12
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Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  



Welsh is one of the official languages of the UK but news readers don't introduce themselves in it other than on Welsh language programs because official or not it's a minority language.

No person I've met in New Zealand speaks Maori other than odds and sods or as a joke like "tin of cocoa" so whilst it may be official it certainly isn't in common use by most New Zealanders.





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  Reply # 1689689 15-Dec-2016 19:14
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people who do podcasts and use UM way too much, I know a couple of NZ podcasts that do this and I stop listening to them.. looking at NZ TECH PODCAST...





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  Reply # 1689690 15-Dec-2016 19:16
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Geektastic:
MikeB4:

Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  



Welsh is one of the official languages of the UK but news readers don't introduce themselves in it other than on Welsh language programs because official or not it's a minority language.

No person I've met in New Zealand speaks Maori other than odds and sods or as a joke like "tin of cocoa" so whilst it may be official it certainly isn't in common use by most New Zealanders.


I don't get the joke?




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  Reply # 1689697 15-Dec-2016 19:56
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MikeB4:

 

Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  

 

 

Can't wait for radio DJs to start using the 3rd language.

 

 


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  Reply # 1689748 15-Dec-2016 22:05
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Geektastic:
MikeB4:

 

Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  

 



Welsh is one of the official languages of the UK but news readers don't introduce themselves in it other than on Welsh language programs because official or not it's a minority language.

No person I've met in New Zealand speaks Maori other than odds and sods or as a joke like "tin of cocoa" so whilst it may be official it certainly isn't in common use by most New Zealanders.

 

UK's policy on regional languages and dialects has little or no relevance to the situation in NZ.

 

I find your objection to the very limited use of Te Reo in public broadcasting rather intolerant, trivial, and ignorant - so that I needed to provide you with the translation.  If you did in fact know what it meant but were trolling, then I guess I'd have to add that to my list of something that "really annoys me" as being an example of pointless trouble-making.

 

It's surely not too hard to learn how to introduce yourself - or understand someone introducing themselves in Maori. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1689774 15-Dec-2016 22:16
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waikariboy:

people who do podcasts and use UM way too much, I know a couple of NZ podcasts that do this and I stop listening to them.. looking at NZ TECH PODCAST...



UM?





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  Reply # 1689775 15-Dec-2016 22:18
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MikeB4:
Geektastic:
MikeB4:

Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  



Welsh is one of the official languages of the UK but news readers don't introduce themselves in it other than on Welsh language programs because official or not it's a minority language.

No person I've met in New Zealand speaks Maori other than odds and sods or as a joke like "tin of cocoa" so whilst it may be official it certainly isn't in common use by most New Zealanders.


I don't get the joke?


Me neither but apparently it is one. Some Maori phrase sounds like it I'm told.





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  Reply # 1689776 15-Dec-2016 22:19
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Fred99:

Geektastic:
MikeB4:


Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  




Welsh is one of the official languages of the UK but news readers don't introduce themselves in it other than on Welsh language programs because official or not it's a minority language.

No person I've met in New Zealand speaks Maori other than odds and sods or as a joke like "tin of cocoa" so whilst it may be official it certainly isn't in common use by most New Zealanders.


UK's policy on regional languages and dialects has little or no relevance to the situation in NZ.


I find your objection to the very limited use of Te Reo in public broadcasting rather intolerant, trivial, and ignorant - so that I needed to provide you with the translation.  If you did in fact know what it meant but were trolling, then I guess I'd have to add that to my list of something that "really annoys me" as being an example of pointless trouble-making.


It's surely not too hard to learn how to introduce yourself - or understand someone introducing themselves in Maori. 


 



Can't see any particular need nor much likelihood anyone I meet will do so.





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  Reply # 1689780 15-Dec-2016 22:25
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frankv:

 

MikeB4:

 

Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  

 

 

Can't wait for radio DJs to start using the 3rd language.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes - there are a few radio stations I can think of, where if they did that 24/7, the county would be a much better place.

 

Probably not too good for the "high tech" businesses selling magnetic underlays and shark cartilage extracts.


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  Reply # 1689781 15-Dec-2016 22:32
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Geektastic:
Fred99:

 

Geektastic:
MikeB4:

 

 

 

Maori is one of three official languages of Aotearoa  

 

 

 



Welsh is one of the official languages of the UK but news readers don't introduce themselves in it other than on Welsh language programs because official or not it's a minority language.

No person I've met in New Zealand speaks Maori other than odds and sods or as a joke like "tin of cocoa" so whilst it may be official it certainly isn't in common use by most New Zealanders.

 

 

 

UK's policy on regional languages and dialects has little or no relevance to the situation in NZ.

 

 

 

I find your objection to the very limited use of Te Reo in public broadcasting rather intolerant, trivial, and ignorant - so that I needed to provide you with the translation.  If you did in fact know what it meant but were trolling, then I guess I'd have to add that to my list of something that "really annoys me" as being an example of pointless trouble-making.

 

 

 

It's surely not too hard to learn how to introduce yourself - or understand someone introducing themselves in Maori. 

 

 

 

 

 



Can't see any particular need nor much likelihood anyone I meet will do so.

 

Then you aren't a Kiwi.  

 

 


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  Reply # 1689782 15-Dec-2016 22:41
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Behodar:

 

I think we may be misunderstanding each other. The OED defines a foreign language as a "language other than one's own". I was born in NZ in the 80s and went to school here, but other than a handful of words and phrases I was never taught Maori. I certainly can't speak it; my native language is English. I'm sure that it's the same for a significant portion of NZers.

 

 

Well the OED is incorrect or has an antiquated incorrect definition - or you've misread something.

 

The first line in the Wikipedia definition states:

 

"A foreign language is a language indigenous to another country"

 

If you believe that's incorrect, then I suggest you edit that Wikipedia entry and see how you go with your OED reference.

 

 


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Politicians who make statements such as the one quoted below, which when analysed are in fact not sentences in English merely a string of buzzwords and/or illogically grouped phrases.

 

"My understanding is that as we've got the funding that pushes the button for everybody and so we need to make sure that you do know what is going to happen and I imagine that's going to come along before too long."






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