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  #1699313 6-Jan-2017 12:40
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Fred99:

 

I'm pretty sure it used to be compulsory to pull over on the left before turning right when on the open road, and was a regular question in license tests when I first got my license in the '70s.

 

I think it may have changed when they changed the give-way at intersections rules (in the early '80s?) - now reverted.  That was supposed to make it easier to turn right and improve traffic flow, but seldom worked well - especially when people turning left didn't bother to indicate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would certainly differ from much of (for example) Europe were that the case, where the following traffic would be expected to wait or to pass safely on the inside if possible. Mind you in a road system where you can have traffic merging from the centre of the road, anything is possible I suppose...






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  #1699338 6-Jan-2017 13:26
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Fred99:

 

I'm pretty sure it used to be compulsory to pull over on the left before turning right when on the open road, and was a regular question in license tests when I first got my license in the '70s.

 

I think it may have changed when they changed the give-way at intersections rules (in the early '80s?) - now reverted.  That was supposed to make it easier to turn right and improve traffic flow, but seldom worked well - especially when people turning left didn't bother to indicate.

 

 

 

 

I thought it was mandatory to pull left if you couldn't immediately turn right or if there was a car close behind on a narrow road.

 

My memory is that it's a fairly recent (last 10 years or so?) change, when the give way rules reverted. So it couldn't have been a question in 1970s license tests.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1699495 6-Jan-2017 17:53
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Fred99:

 

I'm pretty sure it used to be compulsory to pull over on the left before turning right when on the open road, and was a regular question in license tests when I first got my license in the '70s.

 

I think it may have changed when they changed the give-way at intersections rules (in the early '80s?) - now reverted.  That was supposed to make it easier to turn right and improve traffic flow, but seldom worked well - especially when people turning left didn't bother to indicate.

 

 

 

 

I thought it was mandatory to pull left if you couldn't immediately turn right or if there was a car close behind on a narrow road.

 

My memory is that it's a fairly recent (last 10 years or so?) change, when the give way rules reverted. So it couldn't have been a question in 1970s license tests.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was talking about the change to the give way rules for left turning traffic to give way to right turning - when it was introduced - I think in 1977.

 

(It wasn't always the way it had been until recently.) 

 

Victoria had the same rule - then abandoned in 1993 - long before NZ.  NZ abandoned it in 2012.


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  #1699719 7-Jan-2017 09:50
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Geektastic:
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Cars that stop in the middle of the road wanting to turn right on a main road, on a single lane, when there is a yellow line in the middle of the road, in heavy traffic, on a 100km/hr road. It is possibly  illegal as I don't think you are supposed to cross a yellow middle line. But so many people seem to do it and it blocks the road, and risks a pileup.

 



Hard to know specifically but if there is significant risk, I would expect turning right to be prohibited by road signs to that effect.

 

 

 

It's illegal.. You're meant to pull over to the left and wait until the road is clear (and that is without the yellow line).

 

 

 

 

It is permitted to turn right from the centre line if conditions permit

 

 

 

From NZTA

 

Making a right turn on a road with a centre line

 

In this situation:

 

  • slow down before you turn
  • check your mirrors and look over your right shoulder to check your blind spot
  • signal for at least three seconds
  • move towards to the centre line
  • turn when safe to a similar position in the road.

  Making a right turn from the left-hand side of the road

 

If there are other vehicles moving fast or following too closely, or if the road is narrow, it may be best to wait on the left-hand side of the road to make the turn, rather than stopping in the middle of the road and holding up traffic.

 

In this situation:

 

  • signal left for at least three seconds
  • move across to the left-hand side of the road
  • wait there until it is safe to turn
  • signal right for at least three seconds before you turn
  • move when it is safe.

If a vehicle in front of you has also stopped to turn right, it's best to wait behind them and then use the same position to turn from.

 

 

 

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/turning/

 

 

There would be some busy roads that if you ever pulled to the left in order to turn right, you'd be sitting in the left shoulder until midnight when the traffic finally lightens up.

 

Slight over exaggeration, but ....





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  #1699720 7-Jan-2017 09:59
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Overall, I think the road signage is pretty poor - imagine yourself as driving in familiar road as if you have never driven them before.

 

2 lane roundabout and traffic lanes that suddenly turn into 1 just meters past the lights, and there is no sign indicating a merged lane.

 

Poor direction signs for motorway exits - Tristam Ave on the north Shore, Auckland, is particularly bad. It's a crazy enough intersection with Wairau road, but the motorway exit signs don't advise which of the 4 lanes you can use to travel north on Wairau road, or cross over to Hillside Road, or turn left. You need to know the correct lane before you exit the motorway, rather than when you have exited the motorway.

 

I see many close calls around there, as people swap lanes, jink around, etc.

 

 





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  #1699721 7-Jan-2017 10:10
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anything that has a small 'i' in front of it, especially itunes.





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  #1699864 7-Jan-2017 14:09
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Often when an ecg (electrocardiograph) pattern is used as part of a logo, the designers always seem to add extra quiggles to presumably make it look "better".

 

Why? Just show what it actually is....

 

 

 

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  #1699975 7-Jan-2017 18:31
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joker97:

 

anything that has a small 'i' in front of it, especially itunes.

 

 

My iMac isn't one of my annoyances.. :)


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  #1700005 7-Jan-2017 20:04
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anything that has a small 'i' in front of it, especially itunes.

 

 

I don't understand why itunes would annoy you. Surely the problem is the person forcing you to use it is the problem.

 

If no one is forcing you, and you have problems with itunes then you need to repeat "I am the problem", with a big "I", not little "i".





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  #1700028 7-Jan-2017 21:39
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Shadowfoot:

 

joker97:

 

anything that has a small 'i' in front of it, especially itunes.

 

 

I don't understand why itunes would annoy you. Surely the problem is the person forcing you to use it is the problem.

 

If no one is forcing you, and you have problems with itunes then you need to repeat "I am the problem", with a big "I", not little "i".

 

 

Anything else you'd like to add?





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Lazy people dumping their rubbish for others to get rid of.

 

Example: someone left a double mattress in a bus shelter this morning. I'm pretty sure the mattress wasn't waiting for the next bus.


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  #1700524 9-Jan-2017 15:00
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People who take supermarket trolleys home and leave on the footpath after unloading - sometimes you see two or three trolleys lying around on the same stretch of the path.





 

 

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  #1700773 10-Jan-2017 11:03
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freitasm:

 

People who take supermarket trolleys home and leave on the footpath after unloading - sometimes you see two or three trolleys lying around on the same stretch of the path.

 

 

 

 

People who cannot park and wreck the bodywork of my cars when they park too close and hammer their doors into mine. Ditto people who bang their trolleys into parked cars.

 

Also re supermarkets, numpties who have a lobotomy on entering them, wander round in a trance, leave their trolleys unsupervised in the middle of aisles whilst they wander off to look elsewhere.

 

Also..supermarkets which have no floor managers patrolling and getting the staff to keep the shelves filled throughout the day so that they are not just full of empty spaces where product should be until they are restocked at 3am...!






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  #1700775 10-Jan-2017 11:05
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DarthKermit:

 

Lazy people dumping their rubbish for others to get rid of.

 

Example: someone left a double mattress in a bus shelter this morning. I'm pretty sure the mattress wasn't waiting for the next bus.

 

 

 

 

Where that happened in the UK, especially in lay-bys on the road, we used to call it a 'branch of Pikea'

 

 

 

(Note for those not familiar with UK culture - "Pikey" is a derogatory term for gypsy so the word 'Pikea' is a portmanteau of Pikey and Ikea)






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