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  # 1736782 15-Mar-2017 12:12
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Seems to be very common amongst the kids these days. Odds are it will pass into normal usage. They are taking a valid anglicized latin word, versus, and converting it to a verb which is more economical than using the more correct "competing against" and more specific than the equally-sized "playing".

 

 

I'd bet however that versed isn't the correct declension/conjugation ... 

 

 

Correct Latin declension? Certainly not. Correct English declension? Well that's decided by the people that use it. And they appear to have decided.


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  # 1736810 15-Mar-2017 12:25
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I *HATE* it when people say Often with a T. I cringe every time. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you prefer Offen of Ofden?


 
 
 
 


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  # 1736811 15-Mar-2017 12:26
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networkn:

 

I *HATE* it when people say Often with a T. I cringe every time. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you prefer Offen of Ofden?

 

 

Offen. Not sure why you'd ever say Ofden, the T is silent and there is no D.


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  # 1736813 15-Mar-2017 12:28
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Offen. Not sure why you'd ever say Ofden, the T is silent and there is no D.

 

 

If you have a nasal condition.

 

 





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  # 1739870 15-Mar-2017 15:13
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networkn:

 

I *HATE* it when people say Often with a T. I cringe every time. 

 

 

I'll admit this is the first I've ever heard that the T is meant to be silent. A quick Google indicates that either is acceptable.

 

I've been sitting here for a couple of minutes saying it out loud both ways trying to figure out how I naturally say it.


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  # 1739872 15-Mar-2017 15:15
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networkn:

 

I *HATE* it when people say Often with a T. I cringe every time. 

 

 

I'll admit this is the first I've ever heard that the T is meant to be silent. A quick Google indicates that either is acceptable.

 

I've been sitting here for a couple of minutes saying it out loud both ways trying to figure out how I naturally say it.

 

 

It's not acceptable to the Queen :) It's not acceptable to any teacher I came across in any of my classes upto and including high school. 

 

I guess like lots of things, over time lots of things have become "acceptable" that aren't to me.

 

 


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  # 1739873 15-Mar-2017 15:16
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Offen. Not sure why you'd ever say Ofden, the T is silent and there is no D.

 

 

If you have a nasal condition.

 

 

 

 

I'd be more tolerant of someone who had a speech impediment, temporary or permanent. 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1739884 15-Mar-2017 15:39
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Apparently the T did not used to be silent. Until the 17th century it was pronounced. Then it wasn't. Now it is again, sometimes. Sources say both are now acceptable. Not sure what the Queen thinks about that.

 

 





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  # 1739897 15-Mar-2017 15:58
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networkn:

 

Rikkitic:

 

networkn:

 

Offen. Not sure why you'd ever say Ofden, the T is silent and there is no D.

 

 

If you have a nasal condition.

 

 

 

 

I'd be more tolerant of someone who had a speech impediment, temporary or permanent. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My work history has made me very tolerant of language be it written or oral, I am more interested in what folks say or write and not how they say it or write.





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  # 1739916 15-Mar-2017 16:16
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networkn:

 

I guess like lots of things, over time lots of things have become "acceptable" that aren't to me.

 

 

Why does the word "curmudgeon" (with a silent D) spring to mind? ;)

 

 


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  # 1739952 15-Mar-2017 16:57
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From this morning - taxi drivers who brake in multiple sharp pulses of braking rather than one smooth one.  Very unpleasant. 

 

Taxi drivers who frequently brake and accelerate rather than maintain a steady speed, again un-comfortable and costing them more fuel.

 

 

Even worse, bus drivers who do this while you are a standing passenger yell


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  # 1739965 15-Mar-2017 17:40
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Such as the word knight. It once was pronounced with a hard k.


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People who neglect to change their addresses. Still get the occasional snail mail addressed to people who don't live here.


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  # 1739996 15-Mar-2017 19:49
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People who neglect to change their addresses. Still get the occasional snail mail addressed to people who don't live here.

 

 

We still get mail from a bank for the guy that we bought the house off... he rented it to us for 2 years before we bought it 3 years ago.

 

So he hasn't changed his address in over 5 years. :/


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  # 1740218 16-Mar-2017 12:09
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BlueShift:

 

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People who use versing as verb for competing with someone: "I'm versing bob in tennis". 

 

If versing were a verb surely it would derive from verse -  to speak or composed.

 

Or the equally cringe-worthy past tense: "I versed Bob in tennis"

 

Versed is an adjective that means skilled or knowledgeable about something.

 

 

Seems to be very common amongst the kids these days. Odds are it will pass into normal usage. They are taking a valid anglicized latin word, versus, and converting it to a verb which is more economical than using the more correct "competing against" and more specific than the equally-sized "playing".

 

So "Our team is versing St John's this week" is quicker and sounds less formal than "our team is competing against St John's this week" and implies competition better than "our team is playing St John's this week".

 

It rubs me the wrong way too, but whatcha gonna do, its a living language, it grows, it changes...

 

 

 

 

The difference is that when I was growing up, either your teachers or your parents or both would tell you to speak properly. Today, apparently no one cares...!

 

 

 

A similar one that rubs me up the wrong way is when people ask you to 'uplift' something instead of collect it or pick it up!






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