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  #1762059 12-Apr-2017 11:16
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afe66: If they have sold the seat they have the cash.

If I buy a movie theatre ticket and don't turn up, I expect I have to pay for another full price ticket, so I can't see how they have _lost_ money...

Cynic in me says they will overbook and then make the person who missed pay for another ticket so they have paid twice for the same journey.

 

Many tickets allow last minute changes in booking, and the expected number of these changes are the number of overbookings. If they didn't do this then they are not flying at capacity.

 

Hotels also overbook to deal with expected cancellations. 






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  #1762060 12-Apr-2017 11:18
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cadman:
Geektastic: People who persist in verbalising their phone numbers incorrectly.


On that note, people that insist on making up their own phonetic alphabet and then use it wrong too. It's just "MIKE" to give "M" not "M for Mary". I'll never forget the time I was relaying something and it started with a W so I said "WHISKEY" and the other person says "W... H... I... S... K... how do you spell WHISKEY again?"

 

 

 

Indeed. I actually had a conversation with someone and when I used the phonetics, they said "I don't do that - can you just give me the letters?"!!

 

The phone number thing is really annoying. How hard is that to get correctly formatted when you speak it?






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  #1762062 12-Apr-2017 11:21
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surfisup1000:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Overbooking should be illegal IMO.  It's selling something you do not have.

 

 

You willing to pay an extra 20% in your airfares, or have reduced seat availability (maybe 10% of passengers don't turn up for flights). 

 

Overbooking is fine by me, as long as it is handled in a proper manner.  The recent united airlines scenario was just handled very poorly. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"handled very poorly" - masterly understatement.

 

Dragging paying passengers off your plane with security just to avoid putting your own staff on ticketed flights on another airline (for example) is akin to booting hotel guests out of their rooms because hotel staff need the space...!






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  #1762064 12-Apr-2017 11:26
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cadman:
Geektastic: People who persist in verbalising their phone numbers incorrectly.


On that note, people that insist on making up their own phonetic alphabet and then use it wrong too. It's just "MIKE" to give "M" not "M for Mary". I'll never forget the time I was relaying something and it started with a W so I said "WHISKEY" and the other person says "W... H... I... S... K... how do you spell WHISKEY again?"

 

Wikipedia says Mary was in use as early as 1928. Delta can't be used in aviation.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet

 

I know that I don't remember all the correct words. I only use it in an informal situation and will use a word that I think will be familiar to the listener. 






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  #1762070 12-Apr-2017 11:42
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Shadowfoot: Delta can't be used in aviation.


It certainly can




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  #1762098 12-Apr-2017 12:06
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surfisup1000:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Overbooking should be illegal IMO.  It's selling something you do not have.

 

 

You willing to pay an extra 20% in your airfares, or have reduced seat availability (maybe 10% of passengers don't turn up for flights). 

 

Overbooking is fine by me, as long as it is handled in a proper manner.  The recent united airlines scenario was just handled very poorly. 

 

 

 

 

Are we talking here about overbooking reservations or overbooking paid seats? Overbooking reservations which have not yet been paid for is acceptable standard industry practice because many people in fact do not show up and the airlines lose money. Overbooking paid seats is criminal and should be prosecuted. If someone pays for a seat, they own that seat for the duration of the flight. They have paid and are entitled to do anything with it they like that doesn't cause problems. They can use it for their cello (as musicians are required to do anyway). They can put a teddy bear in it. They can leave it empty. If they have paid for it what they do with it is no-one else's business, including the airline's.

 

 





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  #1762144 12-Apr-2017 12:29
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afe66: If they have sold the seat they have the cash.

If I buy a movie theatre ticket and don't turn up, I expect I have to pay for another full price ticket, so I can't see how they have _lost_ money...

Cynic in me says they will overbook and then make the person who missed pay for another ticket so they have paid twice for the same journey.

A.

 

Some bookings allow you to just turn up for a later flight and similar things, so not always are they getting money for nothing with no shows.





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  #1763477 12-Apr-2017 22:01
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Rikkitic:

 

surfisup1000:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Overbooking should be illegal IMO.  It's selling something you do not have.

 

 

You willing to pay an extra 20% in your airfares, or have reduced seat availability (maybe 10% of passengers don't turn up for flights). 

 

Overbooking is fine by me, as long as it is handled in a proper manner.  The recent united airlines scenario was just handled very poorly. 

 

 

 

 

Are we talking here about overbooking reservations or overbooking paid seats? Overbooking reservations which have not yet been paid for is acceptable standard industry practice because many people in fact do not show up and the airlines lose money. Overbooking paid seats is criminal and should be prosecuted. If someone pays for a seat, they own that seat for the duration of the flight. They have paid and are entitled to do anything with it they like that doesn't cause problems. They can use it for their cello (as musicians are required to do anyway). They can put a teddy bear in it. They can leave it empty. If they have paid for it what they do with it is no-one else's business, including the airline's.

 

 

 

 

Overbooking paid seats. 

 

I've been in the departure lounge waiting for my flight when they try to bump people .

 

Even people who have paid for seats do not turn up -- maybe on flexible tickets, no idea, as i always get the cheapest ones myself haha. 


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  #1763699 13-Apr-2017 11:51
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Basic tech which should work but does not. 

 

eg, apple podcast app -- all my downloads get stuck on 'preparing to download'. 

 

 

 

Looks like a very common problem, i tried the proposed fixes but nothing works. 

 

To download podcasts, i need to select each one manually. 

 

This kind of stuff really bugs me. 


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  #1763713 13-Apr-2017 12:08
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^That's why I use Pocket Casts.  So good!  Overcast is pretty good too.


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  #1763742 13-Apr-2017 12:29
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surfisup1000:

 

Basic tech which should work but does not. 

 

eg, apple podcast app -- all my downloads get stuck on 'preparing to download'. 

 

 

 

Looks like a very common problem, i tried the proposed fixes but nothing works. 

 

To download podcasts, i need to select each one manually. 

 

This kind of stuff really bugs me. 

 

 

 

 

Podcasts have never really floated my boat but on the same subject, iTunes. It is an unholy mess that needs a complete redesign now. It has so many idiosyncrasies and weird behaviours and tries to cram too much into one program. Is it a phone/iPad management system? Is it a music app? Is it a music store? A video store? A book store? 

 

It does not adhere to standard Apple functionality either. For example, my mouse has back and forward buttons that do just that in Safari and most other Apple apps. In iTunes, they do nothing...






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  #1763746 13-Apr-2017 12:31
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surfisup1000:

 

Rikkitic:

 

surfisup1000:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Overbooking should be illegal IMO.  It's selling something you do not have.

 

 

You willing to pay an extra 20% in your airfares, or have reduced seat availability (maybe 10% of passengers don't turn up for flights). 

 

Overbooking is fine by me, as long as it is handled in a proper manner.  The recent united airlines scenario was just handled very poorly. 

 

 

 

 

Are we talking here about overbooking reservations or overbooking paid seats? Overbooking reservations which have not yet been paid for is acceptable standard industry practice because many people in fact do not show up and the airlines lose money. Overbooking paid seats is criminal and should be prosecuted. If someone pays for a seat, they own that seat for the duration of the flight. They have paid and are entitled to do anything with it they like that doesn't cause problems. They can use it for their cello (as musicians are required to do anyway). They can put a teddy bear in it. They can leave it empty. If they have paid for it what they do with it is no-one else's business, including the airline's.

 

 

 

 

Overbooking paid seats. 

 

I've been in the departure lounge waiting for my flight when they try to bump people .

 

Even people who have paid for seats do not turn up -- maybe on flexible tickets, no idea, as i always get the cheapest ones myself haha. 

 

 

 

 

Flexible seats usually require you to actively use the flexibility rather than simply turn up some other time and fly instead..! So the airline would know if you had used that flexibility to shift your bum to another flight.






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  #1763838 13-Apr-2017 14:24
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Companies that send you shipping emails with links to track your item that when you click them result in a message on the courier company website telling you the tracking number is invalid. Looking at you, Nespresso!






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  #1764284 14-Apr-2017 12:44
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cadman:

People that elicit advice then do their very best to not take it.


What gives that impression? Looks like there hasn't been an update yet.

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