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nzkiwiman
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  #1784095 18-May-2017 11:49
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Geektastic:

 

Companies that treat NZ like some far flung corner of the Galaxy when deciding on their distribution systems.

 

Example: I'm currently in the process of buying a Seiko Astron watch. I could buy it overseas, but since I will be getting it tax free here en route out of the country, I would rather support a NZ business with the associated warranty benefits etc.

 

Of the 2016 Astron models, there was one (titanium with black face/bezel if relevant!) which I asked the dealer to price. He reported back that that model "was not available in NZ" and that if I wanted that model, I could have it in 4 other dial colours but not black. I could buy the black one from Amazon or several other retailers on line in the USA, or from online retailers in Japan, or in Singapore. However, I cannot have one in NZ from a main Seiko dealer because someone in Japan has decided that model will not be sold in NZ...!

 

They will then be the first to complain when potential customers buy overseas.

 

In the end I opted for a different model, which will still have to be imported by the dealer from Japan as there are none in NZ, but the dealer says that should not be a problem as he has sold that model before.

 

That sort of thinking is just self-limiting foolishness on the part of Seiko - which, for a company that makes some of the finest watches on the planet - is a shame.

 

 

I collect 1/64 scale diecast and asked my local Toyworld if they could source some from the New Zealand supplier. 
The New Zealand supplier said they were not bringing in the majority of my items because they did not sell well in New Zealand ... which may have been acceptable if the entire line wasn't brand new for 2016 (ie, it did not exist in 2015)

 

In the end I opted to order in from eBay and other online stores .. 


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  #1784161 18-May-2017 12:24
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surfisup1000:

 

Geektastic:

 

I agree. However, in this example, if the dealer wants to get Model A because he has a customer wanting Model A, where is the harm in putting Model A in a box and Fed Exing it to the dealer? I'm not suggesting that every model should necessarily be on hand in NZ but why restrict the supply of something like that? A sale is a sale - which is surely the point?

 

 

Ultimately you are up against corporate bureaucracy where the minions have no control or authority or even incentive to venture beyond the scope of their job description. 

 

There is perhaps no 'harm' in what you are saying if everything went according to plan. But, what if the shipment is lost or you fail to pay for the goods or they send the wrong product.   There may be no processes or insurance or policies to deal with problems. Certainly the revenue allocation and taxes could be tricky for one-off requests too. Maybe they have trouble even contacting someone with authority to do what you ask. 

 

Just playing the devils advocate, I hate when stuff like this happens too. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe, but why even think that 'allowing' X country to sell red, white and blue and Y country only to sell blue makes any form of financial success?

 

 

 

The company exists to sell what it makes. Presumably, Seiko NZ put orders in periodically to Seiko Japan. It seems mad that a dealer cannot say "next time you order I want a Model A please" and for that Model A to go in the shipment with the rest.

 

 

 

It's just bonkers. Mind you we have it here in a way - there was an ice cream maker down south that never shipped to the North Island...! Yet the most customers would be on the North Island.






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  #1784885 19-May-2017 17:26
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That Vodafone keeps sending me spam letters offering me deals on ADSL (“cough”) when my house is miles and miles from the nearest cabinet and I already have a vastly better RBI connection (via Vodafone, as it happens). Yes, I know these are mass mailings but they are addressed and if anyone at VF actually bothered to check their own service map, they would immediately see how far my address is from any possible ADSL connection, never mind that there would be no conceivable reason for me to want one. All these repeated mailings do is use up paper and add to the carbon footprint. Get a social conscience, VF.

 

 





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  #1784889 19-May-2017 17:35
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Rikkitic:

 

That Vodafone keeps sending me spam letters offering me deals on ADSL (“cough”) when my house is miles and miles from the nearest cabinet and I already have a vastly better RBI connection (via Vodafone, as it happens). Yes, I know these are mass mailings but they are addressed and if anyone at VF actually bothered to check their own service map, they would immediately see how far my address is from any possible ADSL connection, never mind that there would be no conceivable reason for me to want one. All these repeated mailings do is use up paper and add to the carbon footprint. Get a social conscience, VF.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get ones suggesting I sign up to fibre - something we are not getting until 2027 (by which time it will be as useful as a Victorian gaslamp)






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  #1784896 19-May-2017 17:49
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Geektastic:

 

Rikkitic:

 

That Vodafone keeps sending me spam letters offering me deals on ADSL (“cough”) when my house is miles and miles from the nearest cabinet and I already have a vastly better RBI connection (via Vodafone, as it happens). Yes, I know these are mass mailings but they are addressed and if anyone at VF actually bothered to check their own service map, they would immediately see how far my address is from any possible ADSL connection, never mind that there would be no conceivable reason for me to want one. All these repeated mailings do is use up paper and add to the carbon footprint. Get a social conscience, VF.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get ones suggesting I sign up to fibre - something we are not getting until 2027 (by which time it will be as useful as a Victorian gaslamp)

 

 

Here in Oz, we'd love your Victorian gaslamp for internet access!


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  #1784912 19-May-2017 18:39
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Rikkitic:

 

That Vodafone keeps sending me spam letters offering me deals on ADSL (“cough”) when my house is miles and miles from the nearest cabinet and I already have a vastly better RBI connection (via Vodafone, as it happens). Yes, I know these are mass mailings but they are addressed and if anyone at VF actually bothered to check their own service map, they would immediately see how far my address is from any possible ADSL connection, never mind that there would be no conceivable reason for me to want one. All these repeated mailings do is use up paper and add to the carbon footprint. Get a social conscience, VF.

 

 

 

 

Send them back rather than throwing them out.

 

Someone told me that business post pays more when things are returned, not sure if that is true but I am not making a habit of sending things back once I have read them so I dont have to deal with shreading and disposing of them. Am thinking of getting some stickers made that say "return to sender, this should have been an email" so they get the point about putting things on paper being stupid.





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  #1784938 19-May-2017 21:05
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blakamin:

 

Geektastic:

 

Rikkitic:

 

That Vodafone keeps sending me spam letters offering me deals on ADSL (“cough”) when my house is miles and miles from the nearest cabinet and I already have a vastly better RBI connection (via Vodafone, as it happens). Yes, I know these are mass mailings but they are addressed and if anyone at VF actually bothered to check their own service map, they would immediately see how far my address is from any possible ADSL connection, never mind that there would be no conceivable reason for me to want one. All these repeated mailings do is use up paper and add to the carbon footprint. Get a social conscience, VF.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get ones suggesting I sign up to fibre - something we are not getting until 2027 (by which time it will be as useful as a Victorian gaslamp)

 

 

Here in Oz, we'd love your Victorian gaslamp for internet access!

 

 

 

 

Do they understand the internet yet in Australia? surprised






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  #1784946 19-May-2017 21:28
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Geektastic:

 

blakamin:

 

Geektastic:

 

Rikkitic:

 

That Vodafone keeps sending me spam letters offering me deals on ADSL (“cough”) when my house is miles and miles from the nearest cabinet and I already have a vastly better RBI connection (via Vodafone, as it happens). Yes, I know these are mass mailings but they are addressed and if anyone at VF actually bothered to check their own service map, they would immediately see how far my address is from any possible ADSL connection, never mind that there would be no conceivable reason for me to want one. All these repeated mailings do is use up paper and add to the carbon footprint. Get a social conscience, VF.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get ones suggesting I sign up to fibre - something we are not getting until 2027 (by which time it will be as useful as a Victorian gaslamp)

 

 

Here in Oz, we'd love your Victorian gaslamp for internet access!

 

 

 

 

Do they understand the internet yet in Australia? surprised

 

 

The Govt? No. Never have, never will.


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  #1784947 19-May-2017 21:34
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blakamin:

 

Geektastic:

 

blakamin:

 

Geektastic:

 

Rikkitic:

 

That Vodafone keeps sending me spam letters offering me deals on ADSL (“cough”) when my house is miles and miles from the nearest cabinet and I already have a vastly better RBI connection (via Vodafone, as it happens). Yes, I know these are mass mailings but they are addressed and if anyone at VF actually bothered to check their own service map, they would immediately see how far my address is from any possible ADSL connection, never mind that there would be no conceivable reason for me to want one. All these repeated mailings do is use up paper and add to the carbon footprint. Get a social conscience, VF.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get ones suggesting I sign up to fibre - something we are not getting until 2027 (by which time it will be as useful as a Victorian gaslamp)

 

 

Here in Oz, we'd love your Victorian gaslamp for internet access!

 

 

 

 

Do they understand the internet yet in Australia? surprised

 

 

The Govt? No. Never have, never will.

 

 

 

 

That's Stralians for you.






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  #1784951 19-May-2017 21:37
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Geektastic:

 

That's Stralians for you.

 

 

 

 

Nope, that's governments for you.


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  #1784959 19-May-2017 22:09
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NBN - Not Bloody Now. :-)




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  #1784968 19-May-2017 22:43
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blakamin:

 

Geektastic:

 

That's Stralians for you.

 

 

 

 

Nope, that's governments for you.

 

 

 

 

They are probably busy deciding who's turn it is to be PM this week! tongue-out






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  #1785027 20-May-2017 10:20
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Pure beer.

The implication being that none of the other beers made by that company are pure.....





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#1785028 20-May-2017 10:31
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Dog poop on the pavement and the lazy bastards who don't clean up after their own dogs.


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  #1785029 20-May-2017 10:43
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Posters who title their gz post, or start their post, with "So..." - as if there's been some sort of preceding causation, when there hasn't.





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