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  Reply # 1851810 24-Aug-2017 11:36
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... wot Rikkitic said, plus they absolutely screw over their local suppliers.

 

 


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  Reply # 1851811 24-Aug-2017 11:37
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Countdown/supermarkets can lose their license to sell alcohol if they do sell to someone supplying minors. There must be a better and more accurate way to sort this out, surely?





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  Reply # 1851813 24-Aug-2017 11:40
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Transgressions of the Liquor act can be very costly to the retailer and understandably so, if I was a  manager of one of these stores I would have no hesitation in enforcing a policy like this and staff that did not enforce it would face disciplinary action. 





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  Reply # 1851815 24-Aug-2017 11:44
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The police have often engaged in sting operations, sending in under-aged actors to buy alcohol. They've also killed the Wellington Sevens. Wellington police seem to be leading this charge in defining the law rather than enforcing it.

 

I don't believe that excuses abiding parents being barred from buying goods they are legally entitled to buy. It's illegal to supply alcohol to minors. It is not illegal to supply it to parents. You can even buy wine in a restaurant and let your kids drink it with you:

 

"If you are under 18 years old and with a legal parent or guardian you can: drink alcohol in a supervised area where meals are served (such as a restaurant or family lounge bar) but only if it is provided by the parent or guardian with you."

 

Parents may legally supply alcohol to their kids outside of restaurants too:

 

"If you are the parent or legal guardian of a minor, and you wish to supply them with alcohol, it must be done in a safe and reasonable manner.  Failure to do so is punishable by a fine of $2000."

 

Both quotes from NZ Police website http://www.police.govt.nz/advice/drugs-and-alcohol/alcohol-laws-and-penalties.

 

Countdown are busybody fools IMHO.

 

 


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  Reply # 1851823 24-Aug-2017 11:56
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People who slow down to a stop in a traffic lane... *then* switch on an indicator!

 

 

People who put their indicator on early when they want to turn just past the intersection. 





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  Reply # 1851827 24-Aug-2017 11:58
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Transgressions of the Liquor act can be very costly to the retailer and understandably so, if I was a  manager of one of these stores I would have no hesitation in enforcing a policy like this and staff that did not enforce it would face disciplinary action. 

 

 

If a store is so terrified of selling alcohol to the wrong person then it shouldn't sell alcohol at all. There is no common sense here. Should that store have let the man buy his beer if his daughter was 10? Or maybe 3? Or if the man was wearing a suit? Store counter staff, who probably often have limited educations (or they would be doing other jobs), should not be making these kinds of determinations. It is not the business or the responsibility of a retail outlet. The law truly is an ass.

 

 





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  Reply # 1851830 24-Aug-2017 12:00
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Rikkitic:

 

MikeB4:

 

Transgressions of the Liquor act can be very costly to the retailer and understandably so, if I was a  manager of one of these stores I would have no hesitation in enforcing a policy like this and staff that did not enforce it would face disciplinary action. 

 

 

If a store is so terrified of selling alcohol to the wrong person then it shouldn't sell alcohol at all. There is no common sense here. Should that store have let the man buy his beer if his daughter was 10? Or maybe 3? Or if the man was wearing a suit? Store counter staff, who probably often have limited educations (or they would be doing other jobs), should not be making these kinds of determinations. It is not the business or the responsibility of a retail outlet. The law truly is an ass.

 

 

 

 

Nope NZ's drinking habits are an ass





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  Reply # 1851838 24-Aug-2017 12:15
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Then educate. Banning things should be the last possible resort and in this example the ban clearly won't work as intended anyway.

 

 


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  Reply # 1851839 24-Aug-2017 12:17
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Now this, fellas, is how it should be done!

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/96098266/auckland-supermarket-gives-customers-free-wine-to-sip-while-they-shop

 

No mention of whether you are barred if your baby is in the shopping trolley!

 

 


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  Reply # 1851865 24-Aug-2017 12:54
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There was a supermarket in Nelson more than 5 years ago which had a tasting wine vending machine.

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  Reply # 1851921 24-Aug-2017 13:58
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MikeB4: Nope NZ's drinking habits are an ass.

 

Yes, that'll be why other countries don't need laws that restrict the supply of alcohol to minors.

 

 





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frankv:

 

Numpties that don't know how to turn right into a multi-lane road? (In case there's any here, the rule is to turn into the right-hand lane (for the real numpties and pedants, I mean (obviously) the right-hand lane of the road going your way), NOT the left-hand one.

 

And (probably those same) numpties who, when they're turning left into a multi-lane road when I'm turning right into it, stop and give way to me. (a) We can both proceed at the same time, moron! (b) Even if it was a single lane, *you* would have right of way!

 

 

Sure, but I can see where this might be confusing for someone that doesn't know the road. He wants to turn left and as he approaches the turn he might not be able to see that the road he wants to turn into has two lanes.

 

 

If you can't tell the difference between a roadway with a one lane or two, you should have gone to Specsavers...





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  Reply # 1852005 24-Aug-2017 15:59
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Dealing with ECAN!


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  Reply # 1852048 24-Aug-2017 18:20
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Device designers who place buttons in ways that lead to either irritation or technical issues.

 

For example, the Surface Pro 4 has the power button right next to the volume rocker. Last night in a darkish room I reached to turn the volume up and received instead the screen message "Shutting Down" because I inadvertently pressed the power button not the end of the volume rocker. If they were at opposite ends of the top edge this would be pretty much impossible to do in error, but no - the designers put them next to one another.

 

Likewise, Samsung and that pointless Bixby button on the S8 - also next to the volume rocker.






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