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  # 2010112 8-May-2018 16:23
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MikeB4:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Speak for yourself.

 

 

as we all do.

 

And you wonder why some folk get snippy with you.

 

*shakes head and wanders off*

 

 

There's something very humorously ironic about the wording there - hope you can see it.

 

*smiles and wanders off*


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  # 2010119 8-May-2018 16:33
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Fred99:

 

 

 

There's something very humorously ironic about the wording there - hope you can see it.

 

*smiles and wanders off*

 

 

 

 

Well caught Sir smile





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  # 2010142 8-May-2018 17:10
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Rikkitic:

 

I am aware of the sign-up procedure but that is BS since you are not given any alternative. I am not referring to Tripadvisor. Often, even if you try to book directly with a particular hotel or airline, you are redirected to a booking site and have no other option if you want to use that particular hotel or airline (or whatever). Since they now nearly all do this, it means in effect that you have no other option and that's why the T&C are BS. 

 

If I use such a service, I am not signing up for their spam. I am signing up for the service. It is ridiculous that you can't have one without the other. I just went through this with one such operator (not Tripadvisor). Legitimate ones let you unsubscribe from their unwanted mailings, but I discovered that even doing that did not remove my details from their database. I had to insist on that separately. They readily did what I requested, so no complaints there, but why should they retain my details in the first place? They have no business doing that. It makes me vulnerable to any future on-selling or hacking. Just because you happen to be in business or you run a company does not give you special rights to trample roughshod over social norms and polite behaviour. My personal details belong to me. They are not there for the taking.

 

 

I get what you are saying, and T&C's are a crock, because if you dont accept the T&C's, there isn't an alternative.

 

I just want to sign up, receive the currently enquired service or product, and dont want endless emails from then on. I dont even want to go to the hassle of finding the opt-out link. And besides, and I really opting out  ? What happens if the company gets sold to someone else ? Are they going to honour the opt-out and not junk mail you ? (Thinking the Kogan buy in of the Dick Smith database ...)

 

Best get yourself a disposable gmail account for these types of accounts - idontwantyourspam@gmail.com





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  # 2010147 8-May-2018 17:23
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Always good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way. I do know how to get around this kind of thing and I make use of it, but in this case I had to use a real email for the airline ticket. I could have set up a temporary one but it was too much hassle at the time. In any case, people shouldn't have to do that kind of thing just to avoid being assaulted with unwanted promo rubbish. I do hope something like the European legislation is introduce here. People shouldn't have to be helpless victims of this kind of thing.

 

 





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  # 2010165 8-May-2018 17:52
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SepticSceptic:

 

Best get yourself a disposable gmail account for these types of accounts - idontwantyourspam@gmail.com

 

 

You can actually track and filter emails from companies if you use Gmail.

 

So if your email is example@gmail.com and you are giving your email to a company called Acme. You would write example+acme@gmail.com and that email will end up in your inbox.

 

If Acme shares your email with someone else or starts spamming you, you will see that on the email as its being sent to example+acme@gmail.com 

 

So if you want to start deleting all emails to that address, you just create a filter in Gmail that says that any email to: example+acme@gmail.com should be deleted.

 

 





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  # 2010172 8-May-2018 18:02
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That is interesting to know. I had exactly that problem on a different account that doesn't offer such a service.

 

 





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  # 2010244 8-May-2018 19:17
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richms:


... get multiple 250g bacons rather than the giant pack so that they remain sealed for longer, same for sugar etc.



Use a vacuum sealer.


Ours gets used quite a bit  - I tend to buy in bulk - bacon, chicken, fish, mince, meat, etc. Divide into meal sized portions and then vac pack.


 



I just use the flame on my gas hob to melt the packets closed again.





 
 
 
 


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  # 2010251 8-May-2018 19:32
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jarledb:

 

You can actually track and filter emails from companies if you use Gmail.

 

So if your email is example@gmail.com and you are giving your email to a company called Acme. You would write example+acme@gmail.com and that email will end up in your inbox.

 

If Acme shares your email with someone else or starts spamming you, you will see that on the email as its being sent to example+acme@gmail.com 

 

So if you want to start deleting all emails to that address, you just create a filter in Gmail that says that any email to: example+acme@gmail.com should be deleted.

 

 

That'll work right up to the point where someone cleans up their email list with a RegEx global replace of ([^\+]+)(\+[^@]+)?(@gmail\.com) -> \1\2

 

 


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  # 2010353 8-May-2018 21:50
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MikeB4:

Rikkitic:


For anyone else, this might be of interest.



 


I hate links in posts that are not pre explained or the URL is changed to a single unrelated word.



I hate topic subjects that are one word only ("Help") or make no sense for lack of context ("Port forward", "Router xy123").




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  # 2010367 8-May-2018 22:40
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jarledb:

 

SepticSceptic:

 

Best get yourself a disposable gmail account for these types of accounts - idontwantyourspam@gmail.com

 

 

You can actually track and filter emails from companies if you use Gmail.

 

So if your email is example@gmail.com and you are giving your email to a company called Acme. You would write example+acme@gmail.com and that email will end up in your inbox.

 

If Acme shares your email with someone else or starts spamming you, you will see that on the email as its being sent to example+acme@gmail.com 

 

So if you want to start deleting all emails to that address, you just create a filter in Gmail that says that any email to: example+acme@gmail.com should be deleted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a catchall setup with Mailgun on my own domain that forwards to gmail etc. I just setup rules to block that address at the mail server and bam!
I will however test this, Would it work if i do tim+geekzone@mydomain.co.nz?
incoming has been surprising clean recently :O 

 

Generally I'd get about 600 spam emails a month dropped at the server.

 


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  # 2010368 8-May-2018 22:45
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jarledb:

 

Rikkitic:

 

For anyone else, this might be of interest.

 

 

You might find living in Europe being to your taste after 25th of May.

 

The GDPR - General Data Protection Regulation comes into effect then. And that means:

 

     

  1. Businesses will need your explicit consent to send you newsletters. They can not add you to their newsletter without you doing something active to sign up to it (typically ticking a box). They can't make being a part of the newsletter part of their terms and conditions, or only provide a service based on your consent.
  2. You own your personal data, which means

     

       

    1. You have the right to your personal data being deleted. But that right is restricted by things like tax law (companies having to keep records of sales they have done to you in their accounting), freedom of the media laws etc.
    2. You will be able to ask the likes of Facebook (already in place) for all the data they have collected on you

     

  3. Data security

     

       

    1. The businesses should take every precaution to secure your data.
    2. The businesses will have to let you know if there is a data breach where your data might have been stoled. From what I understand there is a time limit here as well, and businesses are expected to let you know within 72 hours of a data breach.

     

 

The laws have to do with European citizens, but its not limited to EU companies. Any company doing business with EU citizens will have to deal with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I presume you mean "doing business with EU citizens IN THE EU will have to deal with it"? Several of us here would be citizens of EU member states.






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  # 2010369 8-May-2018 22:46
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Coil:

 

jarledb:

 

SepticSceptic:

 

Best get yourself a disposable gmail account for these types of accounts - idontwantyourspam@gmail.com

 

 

You can actually track and filter emails from companies if you use Gmail.

 

So if your email is example@gmail.com and you are giving your email to a company called Acme. You would write example+acme@gmail.com and that email will end up in your inbox.

 

If Acme shares your email with someone else or starts spamming you, you will see that on the email as its being sent to example+acme@gmail.com 

 

So if you want to start deleting all emails to that address, you just create a filter in Gmail that says that any email to: example+acme@gmail.com should be deleted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a catchall setup with Mailgun on my own domain that forwards to gmail etc. I just setup rules to block that address at the mail server and bam!
I will however test this, Would it work if i do tim+geekzone@mydomain.co.nz?

Cheers

 

 

 

 

I use SaneBox. It has a splendid mailbox called "@Blackhole" - any mail in future from addresses you drag in there will be automatically deleted without you even seeing it.






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  # 2010371 8-May-2018 22:59
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Geektastic:

 

I presume you mean "doing business with EU citizens IN THE EU will have to deal with it"? Several of us here would be citizens of EU member states.

 

 

You are correct. Although I assume most EU citizens reside in the EU :)





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  # 2013344 10-May-2018 12:45
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Restaurants, in an admireable attempt to reduce the impact of takeaway containers, that have switched to entirely recycled cardboard, that they dump your meal in, the liquid is aborbed by the container somewhat, or the food sticks to the bottom and then part of your meal is either carboard which has peeled off the bottom, or you lose part of your meal in an effort to avoid said cardboard addition to your meal. Wax paper to line the very bottom is a reasonable compromise. 

 

 


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  # 2013352 10-May-2018 13:06
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People who post why they are leaving X teleco. 

 

We dont need to know.

 

Phone companies are following the power industry model.  Take some, loose some... oneday they will be back when the others cant give them value.


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