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  #2020022 21-May-2018 19:00
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The fact that I bought Pic's peanut butter, made in Nelson, in Tesco here near my Mum's house outside London yesterday for about $1.50 less than it cost me in the supermarket 2 km from my house in NZ.... It's travelled 18,000km and costs less.





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  #2020083 21-May-2018 21:29
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Zinio - a magazine subscription service - have recently upgraded their app. This has deleted over five years of magazines that I had individually downloaded for offline reading from my tablet. There is no batch or bulk download option in their new app.

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  #2020088 21-May-2018 21:38
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The spare battery for my NC Headphones which was flat as well as the primary! Did not enjoy my flight back from Nelson next to the propeller!


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  #2020176 22-May-2018 08:55
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Android. I am so over it. Phones with touchscreens may (or may not) work fine, but it is an absolute pig for anything else. Apps don't work, or only work halfway, navigation with a keyboard or mouse is like  trying to thread a needle with your eyes closed, sites may or may not play correctly if you ever do get to them, everything is incompatible with everything else, version this doesn't work with version that, and so on and so forth. Imagine a Windows browser that only plays one site on one tab and you have Android.

 

 





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  #2020186 22-May-2018 09:18
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^^^ In that case I'm glad I don't use it for anything.


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  #2020246 22-May-2018 10:59
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Rikkitic:

Android. I am so over it. Phones with touchscreens may (or may not) work fine, but it is an absolute pig for anything else. Apps don't work, or only work halfway, navigation with a keyboard or mouse is like  trying to thread a needle with your eyes closed, sites may or may not play correctly if you ever do get to them, everything is incompatible with everything else, version this doesn't work with version that, and so on and so forth. Imagine a Windows browser that only plays one site on one tab and you have Android.


 


What on Earth are you trying to use it on?




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  #2020253 22-May-2018 11:12
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That Netflix only has trailers for "Netflix Originals". For everything else you just get a clip where audio is removed and replaced with awful generic music, which tells you nothing about the show/movie.


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  #2020262 22-May-2018 11:35
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Dingbatt:
Rikkitic:

 

Android. I am so over it. Phones with touchscreens may (or may not) work fine, but it is an absolute pig for anything else. Apps don't work, or only work halfway, navigation with a keyboard or mouse is like  trying to thread a needle with your eyes closed, sites may or may not play correctly if you ever do get to them, everything is incompatible with everything else, version this doesn't work with version that, and so on and so forth. Imagine a Windows browser that only plays one site on one tab and you have Android.

 


What on Earth are you trying to use it on?

 

I presently have two Android boxes. One is a cheap Chinese knock-off running 6.0. The other is Android TV, latest version. The Android TV is incompatible with almost every useful Android app I would like to run on it, even when sideloaded. It seems mainly designed for streaming Netflix, which I don't subscribe to. I have had to devise clunky workarounds for the worst problems and I mainly use Kodi on it for streaming, which at least works for some things.

 

The Chinese box is actually more useful for many of the sites I want to stream, except for all the errors it gives me. At least it runs many of the apps that Android TV cannot, but it runs them in a very half-arsed manner since they are all designed for phones with touch screen interfaces, and navigation with keyboard and mouse is either extremely painful or completely impossible. As I have previously indicated, my viewing tastes are not mainstream so there are limited or no apps for a lot of the things I want to watch. This means I can only access them via HTTP browsers. Trying to navigate any browser on Android is an exercise in hair-tearing, shrieking frustration. Hence my post.

 

 





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  #2020269 22-May-2018 11:47
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Rikkitic:

 

Dingbatt:
Rikkitic:

 

Android. I am so over it. Phones with touchscreens may (or may not) work fine, but it is an absolute pig for anything else. Apps don't work, or only work halfway, navigation with a keyboard or mouse is like  trying to thread a needle with your eyes closed, sites may or may not play correctly if you ever do get to them, everything is incompatible with everything else, version this doesn't work with version that, and so on and so forth. Imagine a Windows browser that only plays one site on one tab and you have Android.

 


What on Earth are you trying to use it on?

 

I presently have two Android boxes. One is a cheap Chinese knock-off running 6.0. The other is Android TV, latest version. The Android TV is incompatible with almost every useful Android app I would like to run on it, even when sideloaded. It seems mainly designed for streaming Netflix, which I don't subscribe to. I have had to devise clunky workarounds for the worst problems and I mainly use Kodi on it for streaming, which at least works for some things.

 

The Chinese box is actually more useful for many of the sites I want to stream, except for all the errors it gives me. At least it runs many of the apps that Android TV cannot, but it runs them in a very half-arsed manner since they are all designed for phones with touch screen interfaces, and navigation with keyboard and mouse is either extremely painful or completely impossible. As I have previously indicated, my viewing tastes are not mainstream so there are limited or no apps for a lot of the things I want to watch. This means I can only access them via HTTP browsers. Trying to navigate any browser on Android is an exercise in hair-tearing, shrieking frustration. Hence my post.

 

 

 

 

sounds like you don't know the difference between android OS on your cheap Chinese box and android TV OS on your another box.

 

these like:

 

 - apple TV

 

 - apple mini





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  #2020274 22-May-2018 11:54
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kobiak:

 

sounds like you don't know the difference between android OS on your cheap Chinese box and android TV OS on your another box.

 

 

I would be grateful to have the difference explained then. What do you think I am missing?

 

I have looked into Apple TV, but as I have pointed out, it didn't seem to offer the functionality I need. There do not appear to be apps for many of the sites I want to stream, which puts me back to HTTP browsers.

 

 





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  #2020281 22-May-2018 12:06
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Rikkitic:

 

kobiak:

 

sounds like you don't know the difference between android OS on your cheap Chinese box and android TV OS on your another box.

 

 

I would be grateful to have the difference explained then. What do you think I am missing?

 

I have looked into Apple TV, but as I have pointed out, it didn't seem to offer the functionality I need. There do not appear to be apps for many of the sites I want to stream, which puts me back to HTTP browsers.

 

 

firstly android OS is specifically designed to be run on touch devices. your frustration to navigate with the remote - not indented use.

 

secondly android TV is specifically designed to be used with large screens and remote for the apps that officially designed to be on android TV. if you side load something - does not mean it should work properly - go back to developer and don't blame OS.

 

the same with apple TV, it's specifically designed device to be used for specific purpose: use app to see content. 

 

apple mini or any other HTPC would be your best option for all the custom requirements you have.

 

 





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  #2020286 22-May-2018 12:17
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kobiak:

 

firstly android OS is specifically designed to be run on touch devices. your frustration to navigate with the remote - not indented use.

 

secondly android TV is specifically designed to be used with large screens and remote for the apps that officially designed to be on android TV. if you side load something - does not mean it should work properly - go back to developer and don't blame OS.

 

the same with apple TV, it's specifically designed device to be used for specific purpose: use app to see content. 

 

apple mini or any other HTPC would be your best option for all the custom requirements you have.

 

 

Firstly, why build and sell STB boxes and other devices (there are many) that run Android if it is not intended to be used with non-touch devices? That doesn't make sense. Touch screens are only one part of the Android world.

 

Secondly, I am using my Android TV with a large screen. That is the whole point of it. But hardly any 'official' app does anything I want. I know, because I have looked at all of them. So naturally I have also looked elsewhere. A few sideloaded apps do work, after a fashion. Without them Android TV would be even more useless to me.

 

I have already ruled out Apple TV for the reasons mentioned. And I do use HTPC for all the things that don't work with Android. My post was about all the things that don't work with Android. 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #2020298 22-May-2018 12:29
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Rikkitic:

 

Firstly, why build and sell STB boxes and other devices (there are many) that run Android if it is not intended to be used with non-touch devices? That doesn't make sense. Touch screens are only one part of the Android world.

 

Secondly, I am using my Android TV with a large screen. That is the whole point of it. But hardly any 'official' app does anything I want. I know, because I have looked at all of them. So naturally I have also looked elsewhere. A few sideloaded apps do work, after a fashion. Without them Android TV would be even more useless to me.

 

I have already ruled out Apple TV for the reasons mentioned. And I do use HTPC for all the things that don't work with Android. My post was about all the things that don't work with Android. 

 

 

Because cheap Chinese OEM don't care, just trying to cash in the "Android" thing.

 

As for the Android TV, what brand and model?





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Rikkitic:

 

kobiak:

 

firstly android OS is specifically designed to be run on touch devices. your frustration to navigate with the remote - not indented use.

 

secondly android TV is specifically designed to be used with large screens and remote for the apps that officially designed to be on android TV. if you side load something - does not mean it should work properly - go back to developer and don't blame OS.

 

the same with apple TV, it's specifically designed device to be used for specific purpose: use app to see content. 

 

apple mini or any other HTPC would be your best option for all the custom requirements you have.

 

 

Firstly, why build and sell STB boxes and other devices (there are many) that run Android if it is not intended to be used with non-touch devices? That doesn't make sense. Touch screens are only one part of the Android world.

 

Secondly, I am using my Android TV with a large screen. That is the whole point of it. But hardly any 'official' app does anything I want. I know, because I have looked at all of them. So naturally I have also looked elsewhere. A few sideloaded apps do work, after a fashion. Without them Android TV would be even more useless to me.

 

I have already ruled out Apple TV for the reasons mentioned. And I do use HTPC for all the things that don't work with Android. My post was about all the things that don't work with Android. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is it an Android TV such as a Sony with factory installed Android firmware or are you using a cheap set top box that has Android installed for which it was not intended by it's developers? Now I maybe wrong but it would be similar to installing MacOS on a Surface Pro then blaming Apple that it does not function correctly or installing Sony PS4 software on an Xbox and blaming Microsoft.

 

 


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  #2020320 22-May-2018 13:02
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Rikkitic:

 

But hardly any 'official' app does anything I want. I know, because I have looked at all of them. So naturally I have also looked elsewhere. A few sideloaded apps do work, after a fashion. Without them Android TV would be even more useless to me.

 

 

I'm interested to know, what are these "wants".

 

youtube does not show videos? it's official.

 

google music does not play videos? it's official.

 

google movie does not play movies? it's official. 

 

plex does not play locally hosted videos? it's official and support world news for free now.

 

livechannels does not play IPTV? it's official.

 

i've tried lots of apps from google play official and all apps did what they supposed to do.





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