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  Reply # 2202318 20-Mar-2019 11:28
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I'd be looking pretty hard at the training your organization offers if so many of your staff meet this threshold. 

 

A lot of our clients have regular word/excel training to cover this very thing. 

 

Some of our organizations include it as part of induction. 

 

In my small organization we require specific courses to be completed within a couple of weeks of start dates. Word/Excel formatting isn't one of them, but my office manager has done courses at my request/expense.. 

 

 


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  Reply # 2202452 20-Mar-2019 15:19
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Lizard1977:

 

Geektastic:

 

Lizard1977:

 

People who work for supposedly professional organisations and businesses that seem unaware of even basic functions in Word.  The particular gripe here is when they produce reports without a proper Table of Contents (i.e. based on Styles and with hyperlinks to the document structure).  I'm reading a report that was prepared for a project I'm working on, and they have clearly manually typed the table of contents rather than properly format the document in the first place so they can simply insert a proper Table of Contents...

 

It's the 21st century, people! Get with the program (literally!)

 

 

 

 

That's what happens when you get rid of professional typists and expect everyone else to just roll that up into their day job...

 

 

I'm sorry, I disagree.  While there are some specialised skills which have been (IMO, wrongly) disaggregated to "regular staff", being able to perform basic formatting on your own document is not a specialised skill.  Word is a simple program, and formatting is a basic function.  Word processing is a foundational tool of most office roles, and in the same way I expect a mechanic to know how to use the tools of their trade, I expect my office colleagues to also know how to use their tools.

 

It takes just a few seconds to apply a hierarchical style format to key headings, and then a couple of clicks to insert the proper table of contents.  Word has already done the complicated stuff.  People who can't do that need to go back to school.

 

/rant

 

 

 

 

That's fine - you can disagree. I grew up with proper secretaries and typists in the office and I know which I prefer.






 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2202457 20-Mar-2019 15:35
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Geektastic:

 

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That's fine - you can disagree. I grew up with proper secretaries and typists in the office and I know which I prefer.

 

 

In most industries the cost/benefit ratio of this approach simply doesn't stack up these days.





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  Reply # 2202460 20-Mar-2019 15:48
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floydbloke:

 

Geektastic:

 

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That's fine - you can disagree. I grew up with proper secretaries and typists in the office and I know which I prefer.

 

 

In most industries the cost/benefit ratio of this approach simply doesn't stack up these days.

 

 

 

 

Possibly, but as recently as 25 years ago it stacked up in pretty much every industry.

 

 

 

The cost benefit of making me type complex documents is very low, I can tell you! 






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  Reply # 2202462 20-Mar-2019 15:55
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Geektastic:

 

 

 

The cost benefit of making me type complex documents is very low, I can tell you! 

 

 

 

 

I learnt to type by typing massive reports and proposals. I did not learn well.





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  Reply # 2202463 20-Mar-2019 15:56
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The tiny, tiny moth that insists on repeatedly landing on my Kindle screen the second I turn the light out.

 

I don't want to hurt you dude, but you are driving me insane.





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That to get a good quality leash and Plug for my new Body Board, I had to resort to buying from Amazon who had a better selection, cheaper even including delivery and I'll suggest will only arrive a day or two after a NZ retailer would have gotten it to me.

 

 


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The continued bickering amongst (some, certainly not all) people  of different religious beliefs about whose invisible friend is the real one.





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Management who hire staff based on their expertise and knowledge, then refuse to listen to anything they have to say.





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floydbloke:

 

The continued bickering amongst (some, certainly not all) people  of different religious beliefs about whose invisible friend is the real one.

 

 

A line that sticks in my head on this issue, and I can't fault the logic. "Two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong" 

 

Dire Straights, song Industrial Disease, album Love over Gold.





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floydbloke:

 

The continued bickering amongst (some, certainly not all) people  of different religious beliefs about whose invisible friend is the real one.

 

 

A line that sticks in my head on this issue, and I can't fault the logic. "Two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong" 

 

Dire Straights, song Industrial Disease, album Love over Gold.

 

 

I counter this with something from Walking Dead.

 

I am Neagan. We are all Neagan!

 

 


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kotuku4:

 

floydbloke:

 

The continued bickering amongst (some, certainly not all) people  of different religious beliefs about whose invisible friend is the real one.

 

 

A line that sticks in my head on this issue, and I can't fault the logic. "Two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong" 

 

Dire Straights, song Industrial Disease, album Love over Gold.

 

 

Sorry, I really hate to be that guy...

 

Dire Straits. 

 

Excellent song.

 

"First Jesus says "I'll cure it soon.  Abolish Monday Mornings and Friday Afternoons.

 

The other one's out on hunger strike, he's dying by degrees.  How come Jesus gets Industrial Disease?"

 

  


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  Reply # 2203247 22-Mar-2019 09:57
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Lizard1977:

 

kotuku4:

 

...

 

Dire Straights, ...

 

 

Sorry, I really hate to be that guy...

 

Dire Straits. 

 

...

 

  

 

 

😋I'm thinking of forming a tribute band, gonna call it Hopeful Gays.





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  Reply # 2203260 22-Mar-2019 10:44
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floydbloke:

Lizard1977:


kotuku4:


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Dire Straights, ...



Sorry, I really hate to be that guy...


Dire Straits. 


...


  



😋I'm thinking of forming a tribute band, gonna call it Hopeful Gays.



Surely Non-urgent Isthmus?





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  Reply # 2203322 22-Mar-2019 12:32
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When people say "somethink"


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