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  # 2343873 26-Oct-2019 20:20
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kingdragonfly: I like the spanish "hasta mañana" reply

When asked how long something will take, it literally means "until tomorrow"

If it's just a farewell, it literally means "see you tomorrow"

Usually tomorrow never comes. Bad news if you want an urgent repair.


My grandparents used to live in a sleepy village in Devon.

I remember my grandfather stopping by the local man who repaired mowers and asking when his would be done.

"Ooh, aar. Oi should thiiink it be bout Weeenndsaaay.'

As we drove off, my grandfather said

"Oh blast. I forgot to ask him which Wednesday."





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  # 2343877 26-Oct-2019 20:26
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Geektastic: The price of accommodation in Mount Cook village.

 

Yup, it was like that in the 80's when we were putting TV2 in!

 

Due to the "village" as a whole paying for our accommodation and meals, and BCNZ covering the cost of equipment and installation,

 

the "village" couldn't even afford for us to stay in "proper" accommodation!

 

We got an empty Parks Board flat with bunks! Even had to supply our own sleeping bag!

 

(Twizel however, was excellent every time I stayed there.)


 
 
 
 


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  # 2343889 26-Oct-2019 20:43
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msukiwi:

Geektastic: The price of accommodation in Mount Cook village.


Yup, it was like that in the 80's when we were putting TV2 in!


Due to the "village" as a whole paying for our accommodation and meals, and BCNZ covering the cost of equipment and installation,


the "village" couldn't even afford for us to stay in "proper" accommodation!


We got an empty Parks Board flat with bunks! Even had to supply our own sleeping bag!


(Twizel however, was excellent every time I stayed there.)



Sounds grim.

How do you put TV2 in?





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  # 2343895 26-Oct-2019 20:56
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Geektastic:
Sounds grim.
How do you put TV2 in?

 

Helicopter in the equipment, up Mt Wakefield.

 

Climb the pole and install new aerials and feeders.

 

Install a new translator to pick up TV2 signal from Mt Mary (Twizel) and convert to another channel for the Mt Cook village area.

 

Walking to and from the site was a PITA, as no tracks due to it being in a National Park!

 

Lots of rock screes and matagouri (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discaria_toumatou ) !

 

The site was battery fed from the public road area below, and the Park Rangers changed / charged the batteries as required.


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  # 2343919 26-Oct-2019 22:54
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msukiwi:

 

Geektastic:
Sounds grim.
How do you put TV2 in?

 

Helicopter in the equipment, up Mt Wakefield.

 

Climb the pole and install new aerials and feeders.

 

Install a new translator to pick up TV2 signal from Mt Mary (Twizel) and convert to another channel for the Mt Cook village area.

 

Walking to and from the site was a PITA, as no tracks due to it being in a National Park!

 

Lots of rock screes and matagouri (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discaria_toumatou ) !

 

The site was battery fed from the public road area below, and the Park Rangers changed / charged the batteries as required.

 

 

 

 

Good job they invented Satellite TV...!!






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  # 2344095 27-Oct-2019 12:34
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Absurd flight taxes to Australia.

 

 

 

Just booked Wellington-Auckland-Vancouver-LAX-Auckland-Wellington

 

 

 

Taxes $168

 

 

 

Looked at Wellington-Sydney-Wellington

 

 

 

Taxes $478






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  # 2344104 27-Oct-2019 14:02
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Google. It's a love-hate relationship. They have stuff no-one else does but they cripple it with arrogant dictates and one-size-fits-all solutions that cannot be disabled. And they make no concessions at all to non-technical users who don't understand that something has suddenly stopped working with no warning and no explanation.

 

Latest example: Popmail using an older client that works perfectly well for the intended purpose, which is an elderly non-technical user who just wants to be able to collect his mail without having to dork around with a browser login. Worked fine until the client started rejecting his password. I had a look and couldn't figure it out so did an online search and discovered that Google, in their infinite arrogance, have decided to take it upon themselves, with no word whatsoever to users, to switch off devices they consider 'insecure'. I switched it back on and everything is hunky-dory again, except for the sniffy Google comment that they may decide to turn it off again at any time without bothering to inform the user who, like many non-technical types, knows nothing about Google account settings or how to change them. He just wants to be able to read his email, for christsake. Not every 80 year-old user in the world needs industrial level security to keep the Chinese out and not every senior citizen has someone handy to fix these kinds of idiocies for free.

 

 

 

 





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  # 2344129 27-Oct-2019 17:31
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Rikkitic:

 

... discovered that Google, in their infinite arrogance, have decided to take it upon themselves, with no word whatsoever to users, to switch off devices they consider 'insecure'.

 

I switched it back on and everything is hunky-dory again, except for the sniffy Google comment that they may decide to turn it off again at any time without bothering to inform the user who, like many non-technical types, knows nothing about Google account settings or how to change them. He just wants to be able to read his email, for christsake. Not every 80 year-old user in the world needs industrial level security to keep the Chinese out and not every senior citizen has someone handy to fix these kinds of idiocies for free.

 

 

Really should get your friend to use the Google web interface, its better than most email readers out there, and would be more secure.

 

Not sure why you are so mad that Google is trying to make sure the users of their services are using secure clients.

 

 





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  # 2344130 27-Oct-2019 17:35
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The way they are going about it. Not everyone is a computer whiz.

 

Apart from that, what is actually better about the 'Google web interface'? That is a sincere question. I don't know. Isn't it just a vehicle to drive page advertising?

 

 





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  # 2344135 27-Oct-2019 17:59
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Rikkitic:

 

I had a look and couldn't figure it out so did an online search and discovered that Google, in their infinite arrogance, have decided to take it upon themselves, with no word whatsoever to users, to switch off devices they consider 'insecure'. I switched it back on and everything is hunky-dory again

 

 

I maintain a free mail sending tool and although most e-mails I receive are from people using Google (or Microsoft) to send mail, I do occasionally get e-mails from people who are having trouble connecting. Whenever that happens, I test to make sure sending via GMail still works. I often have to re-enable "less secure apps" to do that.

 

It's incredibly annoying, and I agree it shows significant arrogance from Google.


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  # 2344325 28-Oct-2019 09:43
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LinkedIn sending me emails asking me

"Do you know Fred Bloggs?"

Invariably, the answer is no, I've never heard of him.





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  # 2344512 28-Oct-2019 19:03
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Rikkitic:

 

The way they are going about it. Not everyone is a computer whiz.

 

Apart from that, what is actually better about the 'Google web interface'? That is a sincere question. I don't know. Isn't it just a vehicle to drive page advertising?

 

 

Invest an hour to get to know it. If you sign up for a Gmail account is completely free.

 

Main reasons to use it: REALLY good spam filtering (best around, I think), virus scanning and great search.

 

The search function itself is worth using the web interface for. Really powerful search, no need to categorise emails. Just archive it when you are done with it.

 

You can add labels to the emails if you want a quick way to find them, and you can do so with filters. You can even remove newsletters from your inbox after having labeled them automatically, so you don't have to have them clutter your inbox.

 

Labels are so much better than folders, because you can easily apply multiple labels to an email, so you have more ways than one to find it again. (If we forget that the search is so powerful you don't really need anything else).

 

If you don't want advertising, go with Google Suite. Its the "business" version of Gmail. Its got no advertising, but costs $50 USD per account per year.





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Google does an excellent job protecting your data from those who are not authorized by it to access that data.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly, however, the same most probably does not apply to Google itself or it's business partners.

 

=> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx7MnXJGAm8





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  # 2344589 28-Oct-2019 20:44
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When a tiny earthquake (GeoNet says 3.0) sets all the neighbourhood dogs off.


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  # 2344593 28-Oct-2019 21:03
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Rikkitic:

 

The way they are going about it. Not everyone is a computer whiz.

 

Apart from that, what is actually better about the 'Google web interface'? That is a sincere question. I don't know. Isn't it just a vehicle to drive page advertising?

 

 

Invest an hour to get to know it. If you sign up for a Gmail account is completely free.

 

Main reasons to use it: REALLY good spam filtering (best around, I think), virus scanning and great search.

 

The search function itself is worth using the web interface for. Really powerful search, no need to categorise emails. Just archive it when you are done with it.

 

You can add labels to the emails if you want a quick way to find them, and you can do so with filters. You can even remove newsletters from your inbox after having labeled them automatically, so you don't have to have them clutter your inbox.

 

Labels are so much better than folders, because you can easily apply multiple labels to an email, so you have more ways than one to find it again. (If we forget that the search is so powerful you don't really need anything else).

 

If you don't want advertising, go with Google Suite. Its the "business" version of Gmail. Its got no advertising, but costs $50 USD per account per year.

 

 

You know a lot more than I do, I have no doubt about that, but I respectfully disagree. A lot of these kinds of arguments are based on assumptions about certain usage patterns. An old man who only receives a half-dozen emails a month from three people doesn't need or want all the gimmicks and value-added crap. He just wants something simple that works the way it always has. Companies like Google are always trying to increase their bottom line by shoving stuff at their users whether the users value it or not. Not everyone needs or wants to learn about labels or filters or searches or automating things he doesn't want in the first place. He just wants to click the same old download button and have his emails arrive in the same old folders the way they always have. What is so wrong with that?

 

 





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