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  #2479731 9-May-2020 13:02
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afe66: Is there any difference with news in au since like nz most of news papers are owned by same outfit.

My bug bear is news is too often just padded with USA political news. If you want to over international news how about covering more than uk and usa.

 

ABC is better than most. Understandably its focus is on Australia but some NZ and international news creeps in.

 

 





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  #2479734 9-May-2020 13:07
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Dingbatt:

 

I’ve pretty much given up watching the ‘Barbie and Ken’ show at 6 o’clock (and the magazine shows that follow). I’m tired of looking at reporters ‘on location’ standing outside schools and businesses that are unoccupied and dark. It particularly irked me when we were in level 4 restrictions because it smacked of “Look at me, I’m essential, I’m allowed out”.

 

A classic fluff piece on TV the other night was of an extended family celebrating a woman’s 100 birthday from 20m away in the forecourt of a retirement village. Then the intrepid reporter and camera crew go into an enclosed space with her and interview her. God knows where those media personnel had been, or who they had been in contact with in the preceding two weeks. Family, who care about the woman, stay away. Complete strangers, come on in.

 

Or the media showing police shooing people off Sumner Beach, and then showing a ‘wonderful’ fairy forest where people had attached little fairy houses to tree trunks. Only trouble was they showed people touching them, including little kids, who then stuck their fingers in their mouth.

 

The ‘woke media’ is something I try to avoid. I want news, not opinions.

 

I think, I’ve been locked up too long.

 

 

When you're dying of thirst in the desert, even brackish water can be refreshing. Unfortunately, what passes as TV 'news' in this country rarely even achieves that level. Completely agree with you on the ridiculous boy/girl presenters, the pointless location shots, stories about nothing, and all the other crap. I watch it only because there is nothing else whatsoever. I have never stopped missing TVNZ 7. 

 

 





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  #2479760 9-May-2020 13:54
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Dingbatt:

I’ve pretty much given up watching the ‘Barbie and Ken’ show at 6 o’clock (and the magazine shows that follow). I’m tired of looking at reporters ‘on location’ standing outside schools and businesses that are unoccupied and dark.



Likewise the 1pm covid-19 reports.

Start with Ken in the studio who tells us what we already know, cut to Barbie in Parliament *foyer* (what actually is the point of this location?) who speculates and rehashes, then Barbie says "I'll throw back to you because the PM has entered the theatrette", Ken tells us the PM has entered the theatrette so we're cutting to the theatrette, finally cut to the actual theatrette.

Am I alone in suspecting that the PM is also waiting, in this case for the TVNZ producer to give the thumbs up, who in turn is waiting for the Ken & Barbie charade to finish?

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  #2479766 9-May-2020 14:07
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Am I alone in suspecting that the PM is also waiting, in this case for the TVNZ producer to give the thumbs up, who in turn is waiting for the Ken & Barbie charade to finish?

 

Likewise, I gave up on the 1pm Punch and Judy show (with prelude by Barbie and Ken) weeks ago.





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  #2479779 9-May-2020 14:34
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Fortunately you can watch the actual report on RNZ or the MoH site, without all the theatrics. 

 

 

 

Edited to add: TV reporting in NZ is mostly style (on the cheap) over substance, aped from American channels that must be better because they are, um, American.

 

 

 

 





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  #2479874 9-May-2020 18:24
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I remember turning on sub titles and being surprised how little the presenters in the studio actually say...

I agree whole heartedly about the pointless live crosses from the studio...maybe in a time of leas news money they will stop doing them...we can only hope. I'm sure the reporters would appreciate getting home before 6pm.

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frankv: Likewise the 1pm covid-19 reports.

Start with Ken in the studio who tells us what we already know, cut to Barbie in Parliament *foyer* (what actually is the point of this location?) who speculates and rehashes, then Barbie says "I'll throw back to you because the PM has entered the theatrette", Ken tells us the PM has entered the theatrette so we're cutting to the theatrette, finally cut to the actual theatrette.

Am I alone in suspecting that the PM is also waiting, in this case for the TVNZ producer to give the thumbs up, who in turn is waiting for the Ken & Barbie charade to finish?

 

No, the PM isn't waiting for the TVNZ producer. She comes in when she's ready and the news has to fill time until that happens. That's why the reporter outside the theaterette often is cut off mid-sentence as soon as the PM shows up.


 
 
 
 


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  #2479897 9-May-2020 19:06
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I have been trying really hard to ignore this because nothing is bitchier than commenting on the appearance of women in the public eye, but I have to say something because it is getting pretty bad.

 

I have noticed how the female news and weather presenters on TV 1 have been dressed for the most part in truly horrendous frumpy and unflattering outfits for the past couple weeks. I can only conclude this is some misguided effort to spotlight local fashion, but with only one or two exceptions, the outfits are pretty awful. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this and I will probably be pilloried for pointing it out, but I don't think this is doing us any favours.

 

 





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  #2479931 9-May-2020 20:18
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Rikkitic:

 

I have been trying really hard to ignore this because nothing is bitchier than commenting on the appearance of women in the public eye, but I have to say something because it is getting pretty bad.

 

I have noticed how the female news and weather presenters on TV 1 have been dressed for the most part in truly horrendous frumpy and unflattering outfits for the past couple weeks. I can only conclude this is some misguided effort to spotlight local fashion, but with only one or two exceptions, the outfits are pretty awful. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this and I will probably be pilloried for pointing it out, but I don't think this is doing us any favours.

 

 

 

 

lol, I wonder if it's to do with the lockdown and not having makeup people or wardrobe people


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  #2480865 11-May-2020 02:28
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When people say they are sorry for my situation (whatever that may be). What do they have to be sorry about? Did they intend for something negative to happen to me? I know people genuinely mean well but it is such a weird (and I find it fairly patronising) thing to write.

 

I'm also a bit annoyed that I read what people write rather than what they mean, but that's a story for another day.


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  #2480920 11-May-2020 09:00
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When people say they are sorry for my situation (whatever that may be). What do they have to be sorry about? Did they intend for something negative to happen to me? I know people genuinely mean well but it is such a weird (and I find it fairly patronising) thing to write.

 

I'm also a bit annoyed that I read what people write rather than what they mean, but that's a story for another day.

 

 

Compassion is that uniquely human ability to experience the pain of another. Maybe those who say they are sorry are just trying to express compassion.

 

 





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  #2480924 11-May-2020 09:07
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When people say they are sorry for my situation (whatever that may be). What do they have to be sorry about? Did they intend for something negative to happen to me? I know people genuinely mean well but it is such a weird (and I find it fairly patronising) thing to write.

 

I'm also a bit annoyed that I read what people write rather than what they mean, but that's a story for another day.

 

 

I think you are confusing "sorry I caused that" with "sorry you are suffering". 

 

I can be sorry for your situation because I care about you (or people in general), without having played any part in the cause of your suffering. 

 

 


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  #2480925 11-May-2020 09:08
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but I don't think this is doing us any favours.

 

 

I'd struggle how to see how it's causing the opposite effect either. One persons trash is another person's treasure. 

 

The wearable arts festival is a fantastic example of that. I can't see the point, but people flock to it every year and rave about it for weeks before and after...

 

 


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  #2480961 11-May-2020 10:04
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Rikkitic:

 

but I don't think this is doing us any favours.

 

 

I'd struggle how to see how it's causing the opposite effect either. One persons trash is another person's treasure. 

 

The wearable arts festival is a fantastic example of that. I can't see the point, but people flock to it every year and rave about it for weeks before and after...

 

 

 

 

I realise it is entirely subjective but the clothes I have seen recently are singularly unflattering. It has struck me so much that I just wondered what was going on. Are novice designers being given an opportunity to display their efforts? I don't know.

 

 





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  #2480988 11-May-2020 10:42
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Handle9:

 

When people say they are sorry for my situation (whatever that may be). What do they have to be sorry about? Did they intend for something negative to happen to me? I know people genuinely mean well but it is such a weird (and I find it fairly patronising) thing to write.

 

I'm also a bit annoyed that I read what people write rather than what they mean, but that's a story for another day.

 

I'm sorry you feel that way. 

 

 

 

 





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