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  #1562110 30-May-2016 10:35
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Behodar:

 

That's... helpful!

 

On the topic of movies (assuming that that's what it's from), movies that were presented at 2.39:1 theatrically but are at 1.78:1 for their home releases. I'm setting up a home theatre and I have a 2.39:1 screen, so I don't want pillarboxes! Some are easily salvageable (Interstellar) but others are a nightmare (Avatar, I'm looking at you!)

 

 

This isn't very common at all with modern movies, and I think you have picked two of the very few examples of this (unless you are talking about when they are broadcast on network TV). What other movies have been released like this?

 

Avatar was filmed with both aspect ratios in mind and was actually released to cinemas in both formats (depending on where you saw it). James Cameron decided in between the theatrical and video release that he preferred the 1:85.1 version and so mandated it as the only version for video release. I personally prefer 2.39:1 as it looks more cinematic, but in this instance 1.85:1 is still technically an intended aspect ratio from the beginning.

 

For its Blu-Ray release Chris Nolan did what he has done in his last few movies and released it in a variable aspect ratio. 2.39:1 for most of the feature and 1.78:1 for the IMAX sequences. The intention here is to add extra height to the IMAX scenes. However with a fixed 2.39:1 screen you will not get this benefit and will instead crop the top and bottom of the IMAX sequences (which is essentially how it was viewed in non-IMAX theatres originally).

 

I've also seen this a few times with 3D Blu-Rays, where the 3D version is 1.78:1 and the 2D version is 2.39:1. But I'm not counting those as 3D sucks anyway.


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  #1562138 30-May-2016 10:42
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People in large companies who think they can come bossing around Geekzone.




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  #1562139 30-May-2016 10:43
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freitasm: People in large companies who think they can come bossing around Geekzone.

 

 

 

Who has done it this time?





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  #1562140 30-May-2016 10:46
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Paul1977: This isn't very common at all with modern movies, and I think you have picked two of the very few examples of this

 

Well, yes, it is something *small* that annoys you :)

 

Paul1977: Avatar was filmed with both aspect ratios in mind and was actually released to cinemas in both formats (depending on where you saw it). James Cameron decided in between the theatrical and video release that he preferred the 1:85.1 version and so mandated it as the only version for video release. I personally prefer 2.39:1 as it looks more cinematic, but in this instance 1.85:1 is still technically an intended aspect ratio from the beginning.

 

1.85 doesn't fill my screen (I think it's actually 1.78) so I'd prefer to have it in 2.39, but my "grizzle" was that that's not available. You can't just crop to 2.39 because some of the shots have been recomposed.

 

Paul1977: For its Blu-Ray release Chris Nolan did what he has done in his last few movies and released it in a variable aspect ratio. 2.39:1 for most of the feature and 1.78:1 for the IMAX sequences. The intention here is to add extra height to the IMAX scenes. However with a fixed 2.39:1 screen you will not get this benefit and will instead crop the top and bottom of the IMAX sequences (which is essentially how it was viewed in non-IMAX theatres originally).

 

Yep, the UltraViolet download was in fixed 2.39 and I was able to confirm that it's a simple "centre extract" for the Imax scenes. That's why I said that it's salvageable :)


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  #1562145 30-May-2016 10:50
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Geektastic:

 

Behodar:

 

That's... helpful!

 

On the topic of movies (assuming that that's what it's from), movies that were presented at 2.39:1 theatrically but are at 1.78:1 for their home releases. I'm setting up a home theatre and I have a 2.39:1 screen, so I don't want pillarboxes! Some are easily salvageable (Interstellar) but others are a nightmare (Avatar, I'm looking at you!)

 

 

 

 

On the plus side, Avatar is an awful movie so no need to watch..!

 

 

I enjoyed avatar.   Sure, it has gaping great plot holes and tries to preach that hippy tree huggers are better than marines ... but ignore all that and it is an entertaining david vs goliath storyline with ground breaking special fx for the time.

 

As for something small that annoys me --- people who do not indicate that they want your car park....  eg, yesterday i was about to reverse out of a park and a car was coming and stopped --- i wasn't sure if they were going to continue or wanted my park so I wait.... so , they flash their lights and start waving their arms around that i can go... surely it would be clearer and faster to simply use their indicator?


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  #1562151 30-May-2016 10:58
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[addition to the previous]   Drivers who think they are being nice to you when they gesture to let you go first when you don't actually have the legal right of way.   Trying to be nice I suppose, but I prefer to stick to the actual road rules.


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  #1562157 30-May-2016 11:05
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That reminds me of the time when someone was coming the wrong way down the one-way street in front of work. I calmly came to a stop in the middle of the road and waited for them to turn around. Or, in this case, to glare at me and then drive up onto the kerb and around my car!


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  #1562158 30-May-2016 11:06
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On this note, people who thinks road rules completely disappear once they get into a supermarket car park - including not following the big white arrows painted on the paths.





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  #1562162 30-May-2016 11:10
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freitasm:

 

On this note, people who thinks road rules completely disappear once they get into a supermarket car park - including not following the big white arrows painted on the paths.

 

 

 

 

Just to be pedantic as it is Monday and I am in Auckland they don't really as it is private property and not officially a road 


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  #1562165 30-May-2016 11:13
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freitasm:

 

On this note, people who thinks road rules completely disappear once they get into a supermarket car park - including not following the big white arrows painted on the paths.

 

 

Ha ha, this reminds me of yesterday at the Harvey norman (kindle sale by the way) carpark at Mt Maunganui opposite bayfair.  One of the carpark lanes is one way and is frequently ignored. 

 

Yesterday was particularly annoying because I drove the long way round to get a park that I spotted in that one way lane, but some geezer just ignores the one way and drives the quick way and steals the park i was about to get.

 

So, should I just join the rule breakers?  The dilemma.

 

 


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  #1562166 30-May-2016 11:14
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MikeB4:

 

freitasm:

 

On this note, people who thinks road rules completely disappear once they get into a supermarket car park - including not following the big white arrows painted on the paths.

 

 

 

 

Just to be pedantic as it is Monday and I am in Auckland they don't really as it is private property and not officially a road 

 

 

How does it work in event of a collision? If there are no rules?


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  #1562168 30-May-2016 11:17
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surfisup1000:

 

MikeB4:

 

freitasm:

 

On this note, people who thinks road rules completely disappear once they get into a supermarket car park - including not following the big white arrows painted on the paths.

 

 

 

 

Just to be pedantic as it is Monday and I am in Auckland they don't really as it is private property and not officially a road 

 

 

How does it work in event of a collision? If there are no rules?

 

 

 

 

The rule is if they person that you hit is big and evil they are in the right that's it. Then queue the Insurance company from the safety of home. tongue-out 


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  #1562173 30-May-2016 11:21
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MikeB4:

 

Just to be pedantic as it is Monday and I am in Auckland they don't really as it is private property and not officially a road 

 

 

Publicly accessible means they do last I inquired.

 

That is how the cops do people for whatever fines and stuff when doing burnouts in an empty carpark at night.

 

If there is a gate that is closed then it makes a difference apparently since it is no longer publically accessible.





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  #1562190 30-May-2016 11:24
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richms:

 

MikeB4:

 

Just to be pedantic as it is Monday and I am in Auckland they don't really as it is private property and not officially a road 

 

 

Publicly accessible means they do last I inquired.

 

That is how the cops do people for whatever fines and stuff when doing burnouts in an empty carpark at night.

 

If there is a gate that is closed then it makes a difference apparently since it is no longer publically accessible.

 

 

 

 

If it is a council car park I believe the rules apply but I maybe 1000% wrong. The police could nab you for public nuisance for the burnouts.

 

It would be great if one of our legal fratenity  members could answer this, I believe it comes down to the legal definition of a road.


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  #1562201 30-May-2016 11:36
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Behodar:

 

Paul1977: This isn't very common at all with modern movies, and I think you have picked two of the very few examples of this

 

Well, yes, it is something *small* that annoys you :)

 

Paul1977: Avatar was filmed with both aspect ratios in mind and was actually released to cinemas in both formats (depending on where you saw it). James Cameron decided in between the theatrical and video release that he preferred the 1:85.1 version and so mandated it as the only version for video release. I personally prefer 2.39:1 as it looks more cinematic, but in this instance 1.85:1 is still technically an intended aspect ratio from the beginning.

 

1.85 doesn't fill my screen (I think it's actually 1.78) so I'd prefer to have it in 2.39, but my "grizzle" was that that's not available. You can't just crop to 2.39 because some of the shots have been recomposed.

 

Paul1977: For its Blu-Ray release Chris Nolan did what he has done in his last few movies and released it in a variable aspect ratio. 2.39:1 for most of the feature and 1.78:1 for the IMAX sequences. The intention here is to add extra height to the IMAX scenes. However with a fixed 2.39:1 screen you will not get this benefit and will instead crop the top and bottom of the IMAX sequences (which is essentially how it was viewed in non-IMAX theatres originally).

 

Yep, the UltraViolet download was in fixed 2.39 and I was able to confirm that it's a simple "centre extract" for the Imax scenes. That's why I said that it's salvageable :)

 

 

Fair enough!

 

At least it's not like the old days of pan & scan when everything was converted to 4:3. I remember how excited I was when some movies would have a "special" widescreen VHS available to purchase!


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