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#2596370 2-Nov-2020 15:18

The fact that when you're helping anyone over the age of about 60 with a computer issue that requires signing in or authenticating to anything anywhere and ask "OK, what's your password" you get the same look a cow gives an oncoming train.

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#2596372 2-Nov-2020 15:20

alasta:

The 'forgot password' link on most websites, which should instead be labelled as 'lost password'.

Do web developers seriously believe that people commit all of their passwords to memory?

No, just the one for their site :-)

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#2596380 2-Nov-2020 15:38

neb: The fact that when you're helping anyone over the age of about 60 with a computer issue that requires signing in or authenticating to anything anywhere and ask "OK, what's your password" you get the same look a cow gives an oncoming train.

My mother's neighbour have her a hand-me-down iPhone which I set up for her, and I made sure that she wrote down her Apple ID credentials and I told her to ensure she doesn't lose them.

A few months later I get asked "do you know my Apple ID password?"

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#2596386 2-Nov-2020 15:48

alasta:
My mother's neighbour have her a hand-me-down iPhone which I set up for her, and I made sure that she wrote down her Apple ID credentials and I told her to ensure she doesn't lose them.

Oh, and that's the other alternative, when you insist on them writing things down you end up with a small notebook filled cover to cover with a jumbled collection of illegible partial web site URLs, three to five different passwords all crossed out and annotated for each one, and alternative, contradictory attempts at recording the same on other pages, for about two thirds of all the accounts they have (the rest are not recorded anywhere). And often scraps of paper with further contradictory notes sellotaped onto random pages.

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#2596387 2-Nov-2020 15:52

elpenguino:
alasta:

The 'forgot password' link on most websites, which should instead be labelled as 'lost password'.

Do web developers seriously believe that people commit all of their passwords to memory?

No, just the one for their site :-)

There's actually a name for it, the Selfish Model of Password Management. Only our password matters so we can make people jump through as many hoops as we want for it.

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#2596399 2-Nov-2020 16:09

As someone well over 60 I slightly resent the statements here. Um, does anyone happen to know my password?

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#2596401 2-Nov-2020 16:22

Rikkitic:
As someone well over 60 I slightly resent the statements here.

Yeah, but you can train your cool pirate cat to enter your passwords for you. Aaarrr!

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#2596418 2-Nov-2020 16:39

neb:
alasta:

My mother's neighbour have her a hand-me-down iPhone which I set up for her, and I made sure that she wrote down her Apple ID credentials and I told her to ensure she doesn't lose them.

Oh, and that's the other alternative, when you insist on them writing things down you end up with a small notebook filled cover to cover with a jumbled collection of illegible partial web site URLs, three to five different passwords all crossed out and annotated for each one, and alternative, contradictory attempts at recording the same on other pages, for about two thirds of all the accounts they have (the rest are not recorded anywhere). And often scraps of paper with further contradictory notes sellotaped onto random pages.

Hey, that's my method !!!

Encryption by obfuscation ...

To make things easier in case of dotage I use palindromes.

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#2596426 2-Nov-2020 16:53

In case of dotage, the word palindrome may be beyond reach.

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#2596443 2-Nov-2020 17:27

neb: The fact that when you're helping anyone over the age of about 60 with a computer issue that requires signing in or authenticating to anything anywhere and ask "OK, what's your password" you get the same look a cow gives an oncoming train.

When you're helping someone who has no awareness of any shortcuts, hotkeys or any other thing that will shorten the tedious period watching them type in their password on the computer (with two fingers, if you're lucky) , then reach for the mouse and move it to click 'ok/enter etc.'

Just press enter !! Your hand was right by it !

I've got colleagues who've been using computers for decades who still do this.

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#2596453 2-Nov-2020 18:03

neb: The fact that when you're helping anyone over the age of about 60 with a computer issue that requires signing in or authenticating to anything anywhere and ask "OK, what's your password" you get the same look a cow gives an oncoming train.

My late father’s accountant and now elderly mother’s accountant is 81.

He recently emailed me some emails as (he thought) attachments. 4 times he sent them and 4 times nothing was attached.

My mother thinks he’s brilliant - largely because she has exactly no experience to compare him to! My brothers and I think he should have retired 10 years ago.

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#2596464 2-Nov-2020 18:24

Geektastic: My late father’s accountant and now elderly mother’s accountant is 81.

He recently emailed me some emails as (he thought) attachments. 4 times he sent them and 4 times nothing was attached.

My mother thinks he’s brilliant - largely because she has exactly no experience to compare him to! My brothers and I think he should have retired 10 years ago.

Ugh, my parents had an accountant like that too, worked his entire life for a small accounting firm that's now a very big accounting firm, retired and kept on working in private. The... reliability of his work went downhill over time, they ended up losing quite a bit of money later due to mistakes made.

It's a problem with many older people, they're really reluctant to change the way things are handled, often taking years, and strong signs that things are going wrong, before they'll reluctantly make a change to try and fix things.

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#2596466 2-Nov-2020 18:26

neb: Mobile apps that randomly forget their credentials, preventing you from using them. For extra icing on the cake, ones that cache their forgetfulness so that when you get home, dig up the credentials, and try and sign in again they tell you you can't sign in.

I would add to that, ones that you rely on to get notifications from that just stop notifying because their short term login session has expired, but do not bother to alert you in any way until you open the app to do something else.

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#2596879 3-Nov-2020 10:38

neb: It's a problem with many older people, they're really reluctant to change the way things are handled, often taking years, and strong signs that things are going wrong, before they'll reluctantly make a change to try and fix things.

You wait till you get old...

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#2596887 3-Nov-2020 10:51

So let's generalise about young people. They are uninformed semi-illiterate layabouts with an inflated sense of entitlement too lazy to do real work who communicate by sending text grunts from their phones and spend the weekends jumping in the air at raves while high on drugs.

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