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  #1618428 27-Aug-2016 18:37
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Geektastic: News reports that leave out "the" in front of "Police".

 

As in

 

"It is a matter for Police" rather than "It is a matter for the Police". 

 

Maybe it's only a matter for some police, not all of them?


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  #1618440 27-Aug-2016 19:39
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Behodar:

 

When products are rebranded.

 

The other day I wanted a Diet Coke, and was looking for the distinctive silver label. None were to be found, only ones with a gold label (which in the past was for the caffeine-free variety). It turns out that they'd decided to make the label gold for the Olympics. A week later, I wanted another one, but this time I was ready! I grabbed the one with the gold label, paid, left the shop... and then realised that it was Coke Zero. Some genius had decided to give both products a gold label, even though historically one was silver and the other was black.

 

Today I tried to buy a new box of Glad Wrap but could only find "Glad ClingWrap" (among the mass of other Glad products). After staring at it for 20 seconds I *think* it's the same stuff...

 

 

I hope it is. My wife bought a non Glad cling wrap. Its great, aside from the non cling part..... I look at it as the "auto unfold" cling wrap


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  #1618442 27-Aug-2016 19:42
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andrew027:

 

Geektastic: News reports that leave out "the" in front of "Police".

 

As in

 

"It is a matter for Police" rather than "It is a matter for the Police". 

 

Maybe it's only a matter for some police, not all of them?

 

 

No "the" causes police to be a verb. But lets not get in the way of modern news items...Its not about the news its about the click


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#1618481 27-Aug-2016 20:39
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tdgeek:

No "the" causes police to be a verb. But lets not get in the way of modern news items...Its not about the news its about the click



Perhap you would care to check the difference between nouns and verbs?

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  #1618483 27-Aug-2016 20:42
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tdgeek:

 

andrew027:

 

Geektastic: News reports that leave out "the" in front of "Police".

 

As in

 

"It is a matter for Police" rather than "It is a matter for the Police". 

 

Maybe it's only a matter for some police, not all of them?

 

 

No "the" causes police to be a verb. But lets not get in the way of modern news items...Its not about the news its about the click

 

 

"The" is a definite article, used in front of a noum to denote a specific item, instead of a generic one denoted by "a" or "an". Using "The" does not make that a verb. It is also used to mark a proper noum or title.

 

 

 

 





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  #1618485 27-Aug-2016 20:46
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Handle9:
tdgeek:

 

No "the" causes police to be a verb. But lets not get in the way of modern news items...Its not about the news its about the click

 



Perhap you would care to check the difference between nouns and verbs?

 

Thank you! Was getting annoyed for a while there ...


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  #1618488 27-Aug-2016 20:58
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I don't sweat about was something written correctly, I may if I was an English teacher, I'm not so no sweat. I care about the what not the how.


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  #1618501 27-Aug-2016 21:40
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Different people have different sensitivities. The spelling and grammatical errors here drive me crazy sometimes. It is bad enough that people don't know, but much worse that they also don't care. The school system in this country has a lot to answer for.

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


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  #1618505 27-Aug-2016 21:48
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Rikkitic:

 

Different people have different sensitivities. The spelling and grammatical errors here drive me crazy sometimes. It is bad enough that people don't know, but much worse that they also don't care. The school system in this country has a lot to answer for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The English language is constantly evolving, what incorrect today can be correct tomorrow. I just don't care, if I understand then job done.


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  #1618508 27-Aug-2016 21:59
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Words are the tools of thought. If you don't know how to use them correctly your thinking is fuzzy.





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  #1618510 27-Aug-2016 22:15
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Sorry folks but since this subject is in play.

 

The use of "of" instead of "have" - should of, would of.

 

The use of they're/their/there interchangeably. They aren't.

 

 

 

 





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  #1618513 27-Aug-2016 22:23
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Rikkitic:

 

Words are the tools of thought. If you don't know how to use them correctly your thinking is fuzzy.

 

 

 

 

Say what now?


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  #1618519 27-Aug-2016 22:43
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Rikkitic:

 

Words are the tools of thought. If you don't know how to use them correctly your thinking is fuzzy.

 

 

Words are an agreed set of symbols with meanings. Over time the agreement of the use of them changes.





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  #1618521 27-Aug-2016 22:48
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Rikkitic:

 

Words are the tools of thought. If you don't know how to use them correctly your thinking is fuzzy.

 

 

Taken this far, your point is basically nonsense. There are plenty of people who are supremely well-educated and intelligent that don't write in perfectly grammatical English -- yet any objective assessment of the originality of thought, logical comprehension, and ability to distil complicated ideas etc will show that their thinking is far from fuzzy. I don't mind the odd typo or error, especially in a relatively casual context like a forum post. What I resent are instances of obvious ignorance or even "in your face" type of stupidity, where people practically deliberately use words the wrong way because they don't care or they want to make some kind of statement that it doesn't matter. I am going to be hard-pressed to be convinced that anybody with a modicum of education seriously cannot understand the difference between "you're" and "your", for example.

 

This is not intended in any way to defend what these people do, BTW. I don't mind the odd typo or error, especially in a relatively casual context like a forum post. I personally operate on the basis of a threshold. With the likes of job applications (for example), if a candidate makes too many grammatical errors, the person shows me that he/she is prone to carelessness or worse. But I am not going to judge anyone horribly based on a couple of minor mistakes.

 

 

 

 


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  #1618525 27-Aug-2016 23:09
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richms:

 

 

 

Words are an agreed set of symbols with meanings. Over time the agreement of the use of them changes.

 

 

The problem arises when one party in a communication makes changes through ignorance or sloppiness that the other hasn't agreed to. The result is confusion, irritation and miscommunication. 

 

 





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