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#2751373 28-Jul-2021 16:19

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To play devils advocate (and whilst I don't like it either) there are often many reasons a manufacturer will change a recipe. A relationship with an upstream supplier may end, supply of an ingredient may become constrained or there may be ongoing supply issues. Price cam be a factor, margin, all sorts of things. It's less often than a manufacturer looks at something that is working perfectly and decides for the hell of it to change it.

Likewise devil's advocate... or the manufacturer decides that it's *not* working perfectly, so they improve it. Whilst they may lose one customer who doesn't like marshmallows, they expect to pick up many more who do, presumably after doing market surveys and taste tests and so on.

Yes, I meant to add something similar to my own comments but got distracted.

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#2751375 28-Jul-2021 16:25

frankv:

networkn:

To play devils advocate (and whilst I don't like it either) there are often many reasons a manufacturer will change a recipe. A relationship with an upstream supplier may end, supply of an ingredient may become constrained or there may be ongoing supply issues. Price cam be a factor, margin, all sorts of things. It's less often than a manufacturer looks at something that is working perfectly and decides for the hell of it to change it.

Likewise devil's advocate... or the manufacturer decides that it's *not* working perfectly, so they improve it. Whilst they may lose one customer who doesn't like marshmallows, they expect to pick up many more who do, presumably after doing market surveys and taste tests and so on.

Or...to play devil's advocate you your devil's advocate to their devil's advocate: There's always a chance that the manufacturer simply feels it's time to refresh a product because it's failing to gain market share and therefore is seen as "stale" in the sales-realm.

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#2751395 28-Jul-2021 16:41

There's been another reason they've changed some recipes too. Some of the stuff aimed at the children's market in particular (but not exclusively) has been absolutely loaded with sugar, with compulsory ingredient labelling and things like "health stars" etc they'd have lost sales as parents have become more aware over the years - not sure if it's been a huge help though - kids still seem to be getting fatter.

Some foods / ingredients have been regulated out of the market because of known risks. Things like high trans-fat content shortenings made great cookies and pastries etc, but were definitely killing people. Others because some people don't like palm oil etc and/or other environmental concerns.

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#2751403 28-Jul-2021 17:20

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It's less often than a manufacturer looks at something that is working perfectly and decides for the hell of it to change it.

Unless it's a software vendor that produces GUI-oriented applications, in which case 50% of all updates involve this under the name "UI refresh".

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#2751409 28-Jul-2021 17:35

neb:
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It's less often than a manufacturer looks at something that is working perfectly and decides for the hell of it to change it.

Unless it's a software vendor that produces GUI-oriented applications, in which case 50% of all updates involve this under the name "UI refresh".

Yeah, don't get me started. We do work with a brilliant software vendor who's entire UX design philosophy is 'less clicks'. There is a process they need to undergo including submission to the CEO himself, when they decide to change a workflow to make it more clicks.

It's an older 'looking' app but everything is where you expect it to be, and if you want to know how to do something, you think to yourself 'logically, where would this feature be found' and there it is.

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#2751423 28-Jul-2021 18:26

Get the wallet out. Pay. Put the wallet away. Get the wallet back out. Put the change in it. Put the wallet away again. Get the glasses out. Put the glasses on. Take the glasses off again. Get the cloth out. Clean the glasses. Put the glasses back on. Put the cloth away. Take the purchases.

Meanwhile I'm wondering whether this express lane is ever going to show any signs of 'expressiness'.

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#2751432 28-Jul-2021 19:20

Behodar:

Get the wallet out. Pay. Put the wallet away. Get the wallet back out. Put the change in it. Put the wallet away again. Get the glasses out. Put the glasses on. Take the glasses off again. Get the cloth out. Clean the glasses. Put the glasses back on. Put the cloth away. Take the purchases.

Meanwhile I'm wondering whether this express lane is ever going to show any signs of 'expressiness'.

...People in the 21st century still bleating about 20th century problems.

Step one - adjust text size on phone so you can read the screen without glasses.

Step 2 - Pull out phone at shops, spraywave it via apple/google pay and walk away.

Step 3 - When you wake at 3am with horrible thought that as you just bought an inflatable life vest, a doll for your grandchild, and a tub of vaseline, some data-matching algorythm's going to wake up the bozos in the data centres, they'll activate the Israeli spyware on your phone that will turn the camera on, and crowds of nerds will be sitting around screens waiting to see and record the action - which will end up on tik-tok. Set up something incredible - to become famous, to monetise it, and then go back to sleep.

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#2751496 28-Jul-2021 22:27

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i have said it before but it is my pet hate. Brands that change there taste of popular products for no reason, it is Nescafe this time who have changed the formula and taste of their flavoured sachets . My son tipped his out because when he poured the water in it frothed up, he thought there was something wrong with it. They also changed the taste to a "richer flavour" which he hates as he said they seem to have "sweetened it with marshmallows". He wont drink it again , so well done Nescafé you have lost a customer for no reason.

It can also happen due to a change in where the product is made. Cadbury did that when they shifted the manufacturing to Australia for the likes of the Moro bar. They changed the taste and consistency completely as the Aussie Moro bar was quite different to the New Zealand version.

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#2751499 28-Jul-2021 22:44

Technofreak:

It can also happen due to a change in where the product is made. Cadbury did that when they shifted the manufacturing to Australia for the likes of the Moro bar. They changed the taste and consistency completely as the Aussie Moro bar was quite different to the New Zealand version.

Totally, and it's so much worse now than it ever was before.

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#2751628 29-Jul-2021 08:12

I miss Creme Eggs. You know, back when they were actually creme instead of the solid gunk that's in them now...

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#2751653 29-Jul-2021 09:16

Admission of stupid.

Bought a 4th generation Apple TV off Trade Me, no instructions included. Different remote from my current silver Gen 2 that has a round central Ok button. This remote is half shiny black and half matt with 4 buttons and a volume rocker. So I start the set up, can’t find an Ok button on the new remote which makes it tricky to enter anything...mutter, mutter about Apple streamlining, less buttons, no instructions blah, so I pair it with the TV remote, Yay...everything working using the TV remote. Ignore the useless new Apple remote.

Hours later after considerable annoyance that I couldn’t download a particular purchased App which was the reason I bought the TV box in the first place, did an internet search to see if anyone else had this problem. Found a great article on 4th Gen TV. In amongst it was an explanation about the great trackpad. What trackpad I wonder, did I buy a lemon? Had they stuck a generic remote in the parcel instead of an original? I sit staring at the new remote in my hand, deep in thought as I rubbed my thumb over it. I notice the apps on TV screen moving, accuse husband of sitting on the TV remote, again. Red face eureka...You click and track on the smooth matt top half of the remote...

Long discussion after about why Mr E always gets blamed for everything.

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#2751658 29-Jul-2021 09:23

networkn:

Technofreak:

It can also happen due to a change in where the product is made. Cadbury did that when they shifted the manufacturing to Australia for the likes of the Moro bar. They changed the taste and consistency completely as the Aussie Moro bar was quite different to the New Zealand version.

Totally, and it's so much worse now than it ever was before.

Another corporate mistakenly thinking the New Zealand Australian market is the same.

That was the beginning of the end for me so far as Cadbury were concerned. With that, similar outcomes with other products and the palm oil fiasco I don't buy their product any more.

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#2751659 29-Jul-2021 09:26

Technofreak:

That was the beginning of the end for me so far as Cadbury were concerned. With that, similar outcomes with other products and the palm oil fiasco I don't buy their product any more.

I am 90% converted to Whittakers now, but there are the occasional thing from Cadbury I might purchase depending.

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#2751660 29-Jul-2021 09:27

networkn:

I am 90% converted to Whittakers now, but there are the occasional thing from Cadbury I might purchase depending.

There's nothing worthy from Cadbury. Whittakers all the way.

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#2751662 29-Jul-2021 09:39

Laggard users (jn a corporate environment) who steadfastly and stubbornly refuse to learn to use a new piece of technology, no matter how simple and intuitive it is, and with plenty of support and instructions, but instead insist on wanting to stick with the legacy tech even though they've been told it is well out of support and will simply stop working in a month or two.

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