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Topic # 190879 15-Jan-2016 08:06
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With trademes recent increase in fees (again) that seem unjustified in all forms. What do you guys believe a new site would need to have, or do, in order to finally seriously take on Trademe?

What features do you think they could implement that would make people consider making the switch?

A couple of sites have tried and failed, but we need competition.

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  Reply # 1471544 15-Jan-2016 08:06
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Hmmmm. Here we go.




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  Reply # 1471550 15-Jan-2016 08:10
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It's not features it's ' Brand ' power

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1471551 15-Jan-2016 08:10
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They need market share - to make it worth listing there, to make it worth browsing there.

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  Reply # 1471558 15-Jan-2016 08:16
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I don't think the features matter much at all, it's a chicken and egg problem. If you are selling an item you want the best visibility possible and no-one wants to be the first in the pool. Most new auction sites can't sustain their model long enough to establish the kind of user base required to compete.

I think the rise of Facebook groups as dodgy as they are will be the biggest threat to Trade Me.



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  Reply # 1471559 15-Jan-2016 08:17
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scottjpalmer: They need market share - to make it worth listing there, to make it worth browsing there.


And how do you get market share.

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  Reply # 1471563 15-Jan-2016 08:19
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I am not sure if NZ can support another site like trademe, our market is small. Also, without knowing Trademe's cost structure and overheads it's hard to say if the fee increases are justified or not.




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  Reply # 1471565 15-Jan-2016 08:21
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I've not used eBay myself. How do their fees compare? Would be relatively trivial for them to open up a .co.nz site I presume?

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  Reply # 1471567 15-Jan-2016 08:24
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yea i think we have to look at the big guns like amazon and ebay and could petition them to open up shop in New Zealand.




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  Reply # 1471571 15-Jan-2016 08:26
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josephhinvest: I've not used eBay myself. How do their fees compare? Would be relatively trivial for them to open up a .co.nz site I presume?


They had one several years ago, but not any longer.

They've got the platform and brand power already through, so if anyone could, they could.

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  Reply # 1471579 15-Jan-2016 08:41
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Why do we need competition?

What do you actually use Trademe for?

It's been ages since I used Trademe for anything other than browsing at things. For anything small gadget related it's easier and simpler to just use the myriad of Chinese sites and get the same goods for far less and typically within 10 days or so, which is pretty similar to shipping times for many NZ sellers.

eBay has become largely irrelevant in the US market as people have just switched to Amazon for so many new and used goods.
 



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  Reply # 1471585 15-Jan-2016 08:49
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What does a new site need to take on trademe?

I beleive a time machine is needed...


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  Reply # 1471587 15-Jan-2016 08:53
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sbiddle: Why do we need competition?

What do you actually use Trademe for?

It's been ages since I used Trademe for anything other than browsing at things. For anything small gadget related it's easier and simpler to just use the myriad of Chinese sites and get the same goods for far less and typically within 10 days or so, which is pretty similar to shipping times for many NZ sellers.

eBay has become largely irrelevant in the US market as people have just switched to Amazon for so many new and used goods.
 




We need competition as a handbrake for fee increases, otherwise monopolies just keep increasing prices. Competition is good for the consumer - look at the Cloud Computing IaaS space. Price CUTS are the norm.

And what do I use Trademe for - selling stuff. Facebook works to sell items, but is full of losers without any money, and it would appear no legs (aka can you deliver it).

I agree that buying cheap poor quality items is the domain of Alibaba, but not everyone wants a poor quality copy.

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  Reply # 1471589 15-Jan-2016 08:55
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Kopkiwi: With trademes recent increase in fees (again) that seem unjustified in all forms. What do you guys believe a new site would need to have, or do, in order to finally seriously take on Trademe?

What features do you think they could implement that would make people consider making the switch?

A couple of sites have tried and failed, but we need competition.


Not free, gives impression of poor quality. Say 1% fee, first 10 sales free.

Trademe feedback porting or variance of such.

Some creative competition to visit and browse.

Referral bonuses.

Get big businesses that sell a lot on trademe involved.

One other difference that separates and is better.

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  Reply # 1471592 15-Jan-2016 08:59
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Kopkiwi: With trademes recent increase in fees (again) that seem unjustified in all forms. What do you guys believe a new site would need to have, or do, in order to finally seriously take on Trademe?

What features do you think they could implement that would make people consider making the switch?

A couple of sites have tried and failed, but we need competition.


There was nothing wrong with Sella. But lazy Hobbitses wouldn't look at two sites. 

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  Reply # 1471600 15-Jan-2016 09:05
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Make some script thats pulls everything from trademes website.
Listings, member usernames.
Find some sneaky way to verify that you own that trademe account listed.
Claim your listings.
Make everything free.


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