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  Reply # 1663961 4-Nov-2016 20:01
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  Reply # 1663986 4-Nov-2016 20:57
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Seems to me that the same people protesting against the '1%' not all that long ago, are now voting for that same '1%' to run their country.





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  Reply # 1664099 5-Nov-2016 06:20
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This article is profoundly disturbing ...   frown

 

5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win by Michael Moore

"I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president.
"And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November.
"This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. ... "





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  Reply # 1664180 5-Nov-2016 12:14
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As above. How can people complaining about billionaires running the country vote for a billionaire? Idiots.




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  Reply # 1664322 5-Nov-2016 17:00
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freitasm: As above. How can people complaining about billionaires running the country vote for a billionaire? Idiots.

 

Voters have to find the lesser evil.  Trump got lucky in that he's running against a greater idiot.






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Can someone explain why trump is the lesser evil. Thanks

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  Reply # 1664333 5-Nov-2016 17:55
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joker97: Can someone explain why trump is the lesser evil. Thanks

 

Trump's supporters would say it's because he's not part of the Establishment, and not a proven warmonger. Republicans would say because he's not a Democrat and anyway he'll do the high-profile glad-handing while the VP makes the decisions. Rednecks would say because he's a redneck at heart.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1664378 5-Nov-2016 20:24
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joker97: Can someone explain why trump is the lesser evil. Thanks

 

Both are terrible options, but Clinton has proven herself to be more terrible.  Trump says stupid things and evades tax like every business ever.  He's been accused of sex scandals, but none of the more serious allegations have been able to be proven.  Hilary is up there with the most scandalous career politicians and married to another one.  That hasn't really gone down well with the general public.  She has been proven to be a liar in the past and continues this trend to this day.  She is also vocalising terrible tactical decisions regarding the conflict in the middle east, which is not sitting well with a lot of people either.

 

If I woke up from a coma after the election day and someone said "The president started nuclear war", I'd immediately guess the elected person was Hilary, not the other way around.






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  Reply # 1664381 5-Nov-2016 20:59
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joker97: Can someone explain why trump is the lesser evil. Thanks

 

1.  Hilary is up there with the most scandalous career politicians and married to another one.  That hasn't really gone down well with the general public. 

 

2. She has been proven to be a liar in the past and continues this trend to this day. 

 

3. She is also vocalising terrible tactical decisions regarding the conflict in the middle east, which is not sitting well with a lot of people either.

 

 

Could you please explain? I know of all Trump's badness but isn't really up with the play with Hillary. Thanks


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DravidDavid:

 

joker97: Can someone explain why trump is the lesser evil. Thanks

 

1.  Hilary is up there with the most scandalous career politicians and married to another one.  That hasn't really gone down well with the general public. 

 

2. She has been proven to be a liar in the past and continues this trend to this day. 

 

3. She is also vocalising terrible tactical decisions regarding the conflict in the middle east, which is not sitting well with a lot of people either.

 

 

Could you please explain? I know of all Trump's badness but isn't really up with the play with Hillary. Thanks

 

 

 

 

1: In more recent history, it's the emails.  She sent emails that were considered top secret from a private email server which some have argued could have compromised national security.  She lied about various aspects of this throughout the whole thing.  In the past, she has been implicated in various cover-ups, from sexual harassment committed by her husband to covering up her own husbands infidelity in a completely separate scandal with another woman.

 

2: Apart from lying about the emails, there were reports of dishonesty and lack of ethics when she was part of the team investigating the Watergate scandal.  Various allegations of misuse of the foundation they set up, theft from the Whitehouse.  She lied about coming under sniper fire during her visit to Bosnia in 1996.  She was also implicated in dodgy dealings with at least one known criminal during her 2008 campaign.

 

3. Hilary loves taking full advantage of the public's lack of knowledge on the conflict in Syria.  On numerous occasions, she has championed the idea that a no-fly zone over Syria would save lives.  The supporters eat it up and love it, but every military mind in America seems to think it's a terrible idea and would elevate already elevated tensions with Russia.  Some Americans don't seem to understand they can't really afford to be in conflict with another military power and seem OK with the idea.

 

On the Trump side of the fence, apart from dodging tax and ripping people off in early life during large industrial property development projects, he's been implicated in a bunch of scandals including racial discrimination, tenant harassment, mafia affiliations and a run in with the law surrounding "Trump University" in 2006'sih.  Bankrupcy is also quite a big part of Trump's previous life.

 

 

 

They're both as bad as each other.  Trump is actually probably a little bit worse in some respects, but many people think being associated with the classical mafia isn't as bad as being in the government mafia club.  His personality and experience as a celebrity has helped his campaign a lot and he comes across as a more likeable person in many respects.  His energetic following love spreading the word and I think the less energetic closet voters will be the people that tip the election in his favor if nothing else pops up nearer to election day.

From what I've seen over the last week or so, Hilary has consistently less of a turnout no matter where she goes.  Her wooden, scripted presidential appearance comes off as "status quo" and uninspired.  She resorts to recruiting celebrities to pull a marginal audience and get headlines, where as Trump fills stadiums because he is Trump.  Trump's campaign seems more akin to Obama's in representing the change of government everyone so desperately wants.

No matter who is voting for who at this stage, even the experts won't make a decision either way.  I personally think Hilary has it.  But Trump's closet supporters may upend everything and trigger "Brexit 2.0".






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DravidDavid:

 

 

 

They're both as bad as each other.  

 

 

 

 

Like hell they are.


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The watergate claim seems to have little merit. Here's one close look at it:

http://urbanmyths.com/urban-myths/politics/fact-or-fiction-was-hillary-clinton-fired-from-watergate-investigation/

There is another examination of the claim in Washington Post. Tldr; a guy involved in the enquiry claims he fired her.
(a) They guy was not in any position to fire her (b) she wasn't fired (c) she was involved in the enquiry as long as comparably senior people were.

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Who would be most likely to use nuclear weapons? Now that's an interesting question!

Clinton clearly appears to prefer military solutions to many problems. However, this is not uncommon for American presidents. It's only a contrast because of Obama's appearing not to.

Trump on the other hand appears to be somewhat diplomatically clueless and therefore much more likely to shoot nuclear from the hip, or at least publicly threaten nuclear, which is just plain silly.

So it depends on the circumstances but I'm thinking Trump is more likely to fire one off at a weak country or opponent just to appear tough in his own self image. I'm voting Trump on that one.

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DravidDavid: Trump's campaign seems more akin to Obama's in representing the change of government everyone so desperately wants.

Americans can't seem to figure out the presidential election is voting for the chief executive of an administration and an administration with international military powers, not a government. If they want a new government, that is going to require an attention span of 10 years

Of course it does not help that the rest of the world population can't figure this out either and only encourages them.

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So you don't like Clinton because "she is a liar". Trump lies about things that can easily be proven are false. Again and again. And his Politifact rating from Mostly False to Pants on Fire is 70%!

 

How about this latest one:

 

 

Here is the video clip of Obama and protestor at the rally:

 

 

 

 





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